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[gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:27 am
by gregoryuconn
A student writes a paper for school and receives a C. Years later, long after the student has graduated, his teacher changes his grade to an A. A lot of people make a lot of money.

Essentially a composite of two true stories, one more relevant than the other. However the composite itself is not true, but takes elements from each. Please PM for early spoilers as some of you may have seen one of the stories.

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:54 am
by WiZ
PM Sent

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:57 am
by gregoryuconn
PM Sent (Which was is this about the guy who designed the 50-star American flag) No, but vaguely OTRT

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:14 am
by WiZ
All right, let's play on.


Did the paper later become influential in some way? Had the marker been needlessly mean in the mark they gave? Was the mark influenced by any factor other than a reasonably-grounded belief as to its quality? Was the paper somehow 'redeemed' by a change in circumstances or information, or greater exposure?

Did those who made money use the paper as source material? Did it form the basis for a song, film, or other oeuvre of art?

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:52 am
by Earnest
Changes his grade to an A = the teacher changed the mark of the same exact paper to an A? Did the teacher read the paper back again? Was there something relevant written on the paper? Something that made the student famous? Did circumstances changed? Relevant historical events happened? Is average mark relevant? Would an A allow the student/teacher to do something relevant?

To be sure: was the mark changedto an A by the same teacher? Can we assume the metric/system to give marks was still the same in the 2 time periods? Can we assume that the mark was changed years later? Was the (ex) student aware of the change? Was he still alive? Did he prove eith actions that he believed in what he wrote? Is the paper's subject relevant? Is the subject in general relevant? Science? Physics? Geography? History? Literature? Math? Others? Nobel prize relevant? Are inventions relevant? Had the teacher not changed the mark would people have made a lot of money? Did the teacher make a lot of money too? Did the student write on similar subject also other papers to other teachers? (I am thinking that all other teachers gave him a low mark. By changing the mark the relevant teacher suggested the world that he was the only one recognizing the student's genious)

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:15 pm
by invisiblemimsy
In his school paper, did the student describe something which hadn't been invented yet? (Or written, discovered, something similar?) Or did he predict something? Was the happening something unlikely, impossible, controversial? Is the class/subject relevant (maths, English, etc... list of subjects)? Were patents given? Were the student, the teacher, any other person among those who made money?

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:29 am
by gregoryuconn
Did the paper later become influential in some way? No, but... Had the marker been needlessly mean in the mark they gave? No. Was the mark influenced by any factor other than a reasonably-grounded belief as to its quality? No. Was the paper somehow 'redeemed' by a change in circumstances or information, or greater exposure? Yes

Did those who made money use the paper as source material? No with a slight ish Did it form the basis for a song, film, or other oeuvre of art? No.

Changes his grade to an A = the teacher changed the mark of the same exact paper to an A? Yes Did the teacher read the paper back again? Probably but irrelevant Was there something relevant written on the paper? Other than what it was about? No. Something that made the student famous? No Did circumstances changed? Yes Relevant historical events happened? DOYD but OTRT Is average mark relevant? Would an A allow the student/teacher to do something relevant? No to both.

To be sure: was the mark changedto an A by the same teacher? Can we assume the metric/system to give marks was still the same in the 2 time periods? Can we assume that the mark was changed years later? Yes to all Was the (ex) student aware of the change? Yes Was he still alive? Yes Did he prove eith actions that he believed in what he wrote? No, but... Is the paper's subject relevant? Yes. Is the subject in general relevant? Science? Physics? Geography? History? Literature? It was English class but it was not about literature. Explore this. Math? Others? Nobel prize relevant? No. Are inventions relevant? No. Had the teacher not changed the mark would people have made a lot of money? Yes. Did the teacher make a lot of money too? Not relevantly. Did the student write on similar subject also other papers to other teachers? Not relevantly. (I am thinking that all other teachers gave him a low mark. By changing the mark the relevant teacher suggested the world that he was the only one recognizing the student's genious)

In his school paper, did the student describe something which hadn't been invented yet? (Or written, discovered, something similar?) Something similar, but not exactly either of these things. Or did he predict something? No Was the happening something unlikely Yope, explore , impossible No, controversial Definitely, see next question ? Is the class/subject relevant (maths, English, etc... list of subjects)? It was for English class, the assignment was to write about a controversial topic, advocating for a particular position. Were patents given? Were the student, the teacher, any other person among those who made money? Not sure what you mean by "any other person" but the student and teacher were not among those who (relevantly) made money.

I've been a lot more careful at distinguishing "No" from "Not Relevantly" since Wiz's Nun puzzle where that proved crucial. Hopefully I got it all right.

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:26 pm
by trebor
Sending PM.

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:27 am
by Earnest
Aparteid relevant? Ethic relevant? Religion? Position like "in favor or against"? Something legal? Something involving minorities? Did one of the 2 belong to the minority? Could the prof have fiven A before to the stident? Did he want to? (E.g. at the time of the homework)
I mean...did the Prof change the mark at the firt occasion he had to change it?

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:22 am
by gregoryuconn
Sending PM. FedEx and Gregory Watson are not relevant but that line of thiking is very OTRT.

Aparteid relevant? No Ethic relevant? CLarify Religion? No Position like "in favor or against"? Yes Something legal? A law is relevant, not sure what you're asking. Something involving minorities? Not specifically. Did one of the 2 belong to the minority? Not relevant Could the prof have fiven A before to the stident? If she wanted to, sure. Did he want to? (E.g. at the time of the homework) No.
I mean...did the Prof change the mark at the firt occasion he had to change it? She could have changed it whenever she wanted in theory, she can do that. But she didn't have reason to. Also slight FA but not a particularly relevant one.

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:47 pm
by irishelk
Was the original C given because the paper did not seem convincing? But time proved that it was, in fact, a convincing argument?

Is it, in fact, relevant why the paper received a C? For example, maybe it had a lot of grammatical errors and deserved a C, but she later gave it an A just because it was so factually correct?

Is location relevant? If so, US? UK? Is a change in law relevant? A constitutional amendment? Is the teacher relevantly involved in the issue being written about? Is the student involved in the issue? If so, when he writes it? Or later, as an adult?

Re: [gregoryuconn] Purple Paper Eater

PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:16 am
by trebor
Do the people make money because of a bet? Through gambling? Is the former student one of those people? Is the teacher? Does the student do something with his paper (or an idea proposed therein) that winds up being profitable? If so, is it profitable before his grade is changed?

Does the changing of the grade enable money to be made? Is it relevant at what level of education he was when he wrote the paper? Post-secondary? (Bachelors? Masters? PhD?) Secondary? Elementary school?