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[Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby Zanreo » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:46 pm

If he had died earlier, it would have sounded different
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby trebor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:53 am

Was he a HAM? A real being? Fictional? Did he die during wartime? Cause of death relevant? Blunt force? Disease? Vehicular accident? Other type of accident? Murder? Gunshot? Stabbing? Falling to his death? Fire? Suffocation? Strangulation?

“It” = his death? Earlier as in a few seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Months? Years?

Did his death make a relevant literal noise? Would it have made a different noise if he’d died earlier? If he’d died earlier would something about the reporting of his death (or his obituary, etc.) have been different, this meaning it “sounded different” in another sense?
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby Earnest » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:12 am

earlier = seconds earlier? Minutes? Hours? Years? Months? Weeks? Earlier than a certain event? After he began something? After something had begun? Was his death been announced relevantly (e.g. he was a pope/king)? Was him famous? Did his death provoked a relevant noise? (e.g. he broke glasses/splashed in the water/ scream/ shot?) Adding to the causes of the death: natural catastrophe? Stroke? natural causes? murder? Electroshock? Electricity?

sound different = a different noise? or maybe in the metaphorical sense of "it would have had another meaning"(the same meaning as in "it sounds good or it sounds bad?)?

different --> better? Worse? with different words? with different notes? with a rhyme? More musically? without ambiguities? without suspect? It would have been exchanged for something else? For an accident? For a murder?

WAG --> was he a musician in an orchestra an died as soon as he began the solo (or right after a long pause)?

WAG --> it = a speech? a tombstone? a written sentence?
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby Zanreo » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:36 pm

trebor:

Was he a HAM? yes A real being? yes Fictional? no Did he die during wartime? no Cause of death relevant? no Blunt force? Disease? this, though irrelVehicular accident? Other type of accident? Murder? Gunshot? Stabbing? Falling to his death? Fire? Suffocation? Strangulation? no to rest

“It” = his death? no Earlier as in a few seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? Months? at least a month or so Years?

Did his death make a relevant literal noise? no Would it have made a different noise if he’d died earlier? no, at least not relevantly If he’d died earlier would something about the reporting of his death (or his obituary, etc.) have been different, this meaning it “sounded different” in another sense? and not this

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earlier = seconds earlier? Minutes? Hours? Years? Months? this, like mentioned above Weeks? Earlier than a certain event? not right before-earlier, but another "event" (for a certain definition of the word) and a certain amount of time before it is relevant After he began something? noAfter something had begun? no Was his death been announced relevantly (e.g. he was a pope/king)? no Was him famous? yesDid his death provoked a relevant noise? (e.g. he broke glasses/splashed in the water/ scream/ shot?) no Adding to the causes of the death: natural catastrophe? Stroke? natural causes? yes murder? Electroshock? Electricity?

sound different = a different noise? yes, for a certain definition of "noise" or maybe in the metaphorical sense of "it would have had another meaning"(the same meaning as in "it sounds good or it sounds bad?)? not this

different --> better? Worse? some might think it would have been worse or better, though this is all a matter of opinion with different words? no, and no words are relevant with different notes? yes with a rhyme? no More musically? again, this could be a matter of opinion without ambiguities? reword this? without suspect? and this? It would have been exchanged for something else? in this case it wouldn't have been exchanged, but OTRT For an accident? noFor a murder? no

WAG --> was he a musician in an orchestra an died as soon as he began the solo (or right after a long pause) not this - however I can say he was a musician of some kind, and this is relevant

WAG --> it = a speech? a tombstone? a written sentence? none of these
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby trebor » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:00 pm

Was “it” a concert? Album? Song? Album release? A work of his? Of someone else’s? Something he said?

Was he a pop musician? Rock? Folk? Country? Jazz? 21st century death? 20th? Was he a singer? Guitarist? Percussionist? Bassist? Keyboardist/pianist? David Bowie? Prince? Freddie Mercury?
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby Earnest » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:57 am

Did he made the last adding/changes to a relevant musical piece he wrote down? Musician = opera ? Michael Jackson? Orchestra director? Are cinema soundtracks relevant? Street performer?

Assuming "it" = a song: Are words of the song relevant? Refrain? Notes? Did he perform a song directly? Did he write down the words of the song?
Had he not died at all would "it" have had another sound again? Have sounded differently?

Did he die while performing? Relevant which disease killed him? Are drugs/alchol relevant? Long term disease? Cancer? HIV? Others?
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby Zanreo » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:27 am

trebor:
Was “it” a concert? Album? Song? this with slight possible -ish Album release? A work of his? Of someone else’s? yes, a work by someone else is relevant here Something he said? no to rest, and nothing he made/said/did would sound different, however...

Was he a pop musician? Rock? Folk? Country? Jazz? 21st century death? 20th? this Was he a singer? Guitarist? Percussionist? Bassist? Keyboardist/pianist? this David Bowie? Prince? Freddie Mercury? no to rest

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Did he made the last adding/changes to a relevant musical piece he wrote down? no Musician = opera? his works included this, yes Michael Jackson? no Orchestra director? yes Are cinema soundtracks relevant? no Street performer? no

Assuming "it" = a song: Are words of the song relevant? No Refrain? no Notes? yes but beware FA Did he perform a song directly? no Did he write down the words of the song? no
Had he not died at all would "it" have had another sound again? if I understand the question correctly, it would still have been a different song than the one it would have been if it "sounded differently" (however, I can say he would most likely not have been alive at that point) Have sounded differently? so yes

Did he die while performing? no Relevant which disease killed him? no, only when he died, and from what I can find the exact illness/condition is unknown Are drugs/alchol relevant? no Long term disease? yes Cancer? HIV? Others? no to rest
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby Earnest » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:03 am

Does "it" refer to a relevant piece? Assuming so for the rest of the post.
Notes? yes but beware FA --> with notes I mean musical notes written on a Pentagram, right? Musical notes read by musicians when performing. If so, did he write them? Did he saw the notes of someone else's work?

In the period between "earlier" and the day he died, did he relevantly perform? If so, in front of a relevant audience (e.g. royal family/pope...)? Was he relevantly ill "earlier" (i.e. that particular time in which his death would have result in "it" having a different sound)? (I mean of the same disease that killed him) Did he discover from a lot of time? Was public relevantly aware that ge was ill? Relevantly unaware? Did he "mask" it somehow?
Rewriting the notes of a song relevant? Did he die after a relevant event? If so did this event induce him to change the structure of a song relevantly? Maybe he lost an arm/an hand? He lost the ability to play the piano? Is any physical damage relevant? Did he become deaf? Deaf to some of the notes? Did someone else die before him relevantly? Did he dedicate the song to someone relevantly? Did he die young? Very old? Is his last performance relevant? Did he perform the relevant piece? Can we assume that the piece had no words? Did he compose it in first person? With the help of someone else? (e.g. he was no more able to write and someone helped him? Or maybe the someone else was a co- author of the piece? In the sense that he directly proposed changing/modifications to it...)

it would have sounded different --> Do musicians base on something that he wrote to perform the piece? Was the piece written for an orchestra? For a musical? For a theater? For a movie? Maybe a stupid WAG, but still...-> he took some drugs that provoked muscle spasms to him, so that some of the notes on the paper seemed vibrato or other musical signs. Hence the reprints of the writings sounded confusing.
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby Zanreo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:24 pm

Does "it" refer to a relevant piece? Assuming so for the rest of the post. yes
Notes? yes but beware FA --> with notes I mean musical notes written on a Pentagram, right? Musical notes read by musicians when performing. The notes involved are regular music notes used to perform a music piece, yes, the FA is referring to something else If so, did he write them? to clarify something, there are two relevant pieces here, and he wrote/composed one but not the other - I'll be answering about the one he composed here Did he saw the notes of someone else's work? no

In the period between "earlier" and the day he died, did he relevantly perform? no If so, in front of a relevant audience (e.g. royal family/pope...)? so no Was he relevantly ill "earlier" (i.e. that particular time in which his death would have result in "it" having a different sound)? if I understand this right, yes, though how long he was ill not relevant (I mean of the same disease that killed him) Did he discover from a lot of time? reword this? Was public relevantly aware that ge was ill? irrel Relevantly unaware? Did he "mask" it somehow? no
Rewriting the notes of a song relevant? no, very slight ish Did he die after a relevant event? no If so did this event induce him to change the structure of a song relevantly? no Maybe he lost an arm/an hand? no He lost the ability to play the piano? while this happened it's irrel to this/after the relevant piece he made Is any physical damage relevant? no Did he become deaf? no Deaf to some of the notes? no Did someone else die before him relevantly? no Did he dedicate the song to someone relevantly? not "dedicated to" exactly, but it was commissioned by someoneDid he die young? no Very old? not very old, in his 60s Is his last performance relevant? no Did he perform the relevant piece? don't know if/think he performed it himself, just composed Can we assume that the piece had no words? yes Did he compose it in first person? by himself? yes With the help of someone else? (e.g. he was no more able to write and someone helped him? no Or maybe the someone else was a co- author of the piece? no In the sense that he directly proposed changing/modifications to it...) no

it would have sounded different --> Do musicians base on something that he wrote to perform the piece? no Was the piece written for an orchestra? yes For a musical? no For a theater? no For a movie? no Maybe a stupid WAG, but still...-> he took some drugs that provoked muscle spasms to him, so that some of the notes on the paper seemed vibrato or other musical signs. Hence the reprints of the writings sounded confusing. no

Hint: Try to explore about the other relevant piece
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby trebor » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:32 pm

Is the other relevant piece instrumental? Is it in the same genre as the one he wrote? Was it composed during OH's lifetime? Would it help us to figure out the composer? If so, Copland? Joplin? Chopin? Bach? Beethoven? Liszt? Was it written for piano? Is the title of the piece relevant?

Is the pianist here himself Joplin? Glenn Gould? Is he known for his work within the classical field? As a composer of modern classical work? Avant-garde sort of stuff? Experimental? An interpreter of older works?

This could go in misleading directions, but when you said no to styles of music I listed earlier, were you including off-shoots? Like, I'd think ragtime and blues are closely enough related to jazz to be considered under the same umbrella. (If you follow that too much though at some point you have to ask where the dividing line between genres is.)
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Re: [Zanreo] Fired Up

Postby Earnest » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:01 am

Did he copy the first piece? Was the first piece made of just notes? Made for an orchestra? Was it composed in the past? Before the piece that he wrote? Can we call p1 = piece that he wrote and p2 the other? Does "it" refer to p1? Dis he copy some relevant parts of p1? Had he heared p2 relevantly before? Was p1 an homage? A continuation? A revisited version of p2? Was p2 known? Was p1 ever put on stage? On an LP? On a cd? Relevant? Was it recorded relevantly? Was p2?

Was p2 composed later on? By someone else? Was it a revisited version of p1?
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