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[Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:11 pm

Why does Karalynn have a marker in her lunchbox?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby GalFisk » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:16 pm

Karalynn: HAF? Is her name relevant? Is it a permanent marker? Whiteboard marker? Highlighter? Is there also lunch in the lunch box? If so, relevant what food? Does she have the marker so she can mark something? Does she have it there to hide it?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:38 pm

Karalynn: HAF? HTF Is her name relevant? No Is it a permanent marker? Assume so Whiteboard marker? This would probably work too Highlighter? Not so much this Is there also lunch in the lunch box? Yes If so, relevant what food? Yes, some of it Does she have the marker so she can mark something? Yes Does she have it there to hide it? That's not her main reason
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby peter365 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:16 am

Any relevant theft of food from communal fridges ?

Does she intend to write on the lunchbox ? on any of the other items contained in it? Is the colour of the marker relevant?

Does she intend to writer her own name? someone elses? an instruction ? a warning? something humorous ?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:29 pm

Any relevant theft of food from communal fridges? Not in this puzzle!

Does she intend to write on the lunchbox? on any of the other items contained in it? Yes Is the colour of the marker relevant? No; assume an ordinary black Sharpie

Does she intend to writer her own name? someone elses? an instruction ? a warning? No to these something humorous? Yes
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby WiZ » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:19 pm

Does she plan to write on something then eat it? Does she write on an implement or similar associated with eating the relevant foodstuff? Does she identify or mis-identify a foodstuff or associated item?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:41 pm

Does she plan to write on something then eat it? No Does she write on an implement or similar associated with eating the relevant foodstuff? No Does she identify or mis-identify a foodstuff or associated item? No
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Earnest » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:05 am

WAG: it was the lunchbox of her child. She was late and took it
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:38 pm

WAG: it was the lunchbox of her child. She was late and took it No
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Earnest » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:17 am

Had she written down the something at home before work, would it have been humorous? If not, because it depended on something that could have been seen just in her work place (e.g. the food of the others)?

Write something: on a piece of food? Maybe wrapped? If so, is the shape of the wrapped food relevant? On the food of someone else? On a box? Did she want to write down at lunch time? Did she want to write down the something on something related to her job? On a piece of paper? Was it the birthday of someone?

Write something = relevantly in capital letters? On a label? On a box? Did she want to write: a single word? A name? An adjective? A sentence? A paint? A sign? A symbol? Something to confound other people (collegues?)? The word "expired"? On the same part of the object where she wanted to write? (A counterexample would be the words on and off written on the front and on the back of the object) A word commonly written in certain devices? On tombstones? On objects having a particular shape?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:46 pm

Had she written down the something at home before work, would it have been humorous? Yes, FA If not, because it depended on something that could have been seen just in her work place Yes, FA (e.g. the food of the others)? No

Write something: on a piece of food? Yes Maybe wrapped? No If so, is the shape of the wrapped food relevant? Possibly (not "wrapped" though) On the food of someone else? No On a box? No Did she want to write down at lunch time? Yes Did she want to write down the something on something related to her job? No, FA On a piece of paper? No Was it the birthday of someone? No

Write something = relevantly in capital letters? On a label? On a box? No to these
Did she want to write: a single word? A name? An adjective? A sentence? A paint? A sign? A symbol? This-ish Something to confound other people (collegues?)? The word "expired"? On the same part of the object where she wanted to write? (A counterexample would be the words on and off written on the front and on the back of the object) A word commonly written in certain devices? On tombstones? On objects having a particular shape? Yes. No to rest
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Hobbsicle » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:48 am

Did she write on a fruit? (Apple? Orange? Banana?) Did she write letters? Numbers? Draw a face? Draw something else?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Earnest » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:06 am

Did the piece of food belonged to her? Can we assume that the food had some sort of packaging? If so, were there symbols over it? Was ut the first time that she saw such food? Is it usual to eat it at lunchtime? Did she relevantly eat with someone else at lunchtime? If so, did the someone else fear some sort of animal? Have such a food? Was he/she the only one having such a food?

Food =a vegetable? Cookies? Something sweet? A coconut? Something that can be found in supermarkets? In vending machines? Cereals? In canteens?

Would the symbol that she was going to write down add something to the food? Made it resemble another thing (e.g. an animal? A brand? Others?)? E.g. did she paint: eyes? Smiles? Other traits typical of living creatures (mouth, hears...)? Just a trait of pen? A line? Was the something humorous in that: it concerned her work? It was embarassing? It put in evdence the weakness of someone? It confused someone? It confused the food of someone with the food of someone else? Something that made someone think that the food expired? (E.g. a hole on an apple?)...also the pen was black right? Relevant the color? Was the color of the pen the same color of the food? The same color of something that could appear on the food (a hole for instance, dark chocolate...)

Did she eventually wrote down what she meant to? If so, did she put the food somewhere relevantly after?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:43 pm

Did she write on a fruit? Yes (Apple? Yes Orange? And Yes Banana?) Did she write letters? Numbers? Draw a face? This Draw something else?

Did the piece of food belonged to her? Yes Can we assume that the food had some sort of packaging? No If so, were there symbols over it? Was ut the first time that she saw such food? No Is it usual to eat it at lunchtime? Yes Did she relevantly eat with someone else at lunchtime? Yes If so, did the someone else fear some sort of animal? No Have such a food? Irr Was he/she the only one having such a food? Irr

Food =a vegetable? Cookies? Something sweet? A coconut? Something that can be found in supermarkets? In vending machines? Cereals? In canteens? See above

Would the symbol that she was going to write down add something to the food? Made it resemble another thing Yes, see above (e.g. an animal? A brand? Others?)? E.g. did she paint: eyes? Smiles? Other traits typical of living creatures (mouth, hears...)? See above Just a trait of pen? A line?
Was the something humorous in that: it concerned her work? It was embarassing? It put in evdence the weakness of someone? It confused someone? It confused the food of someone with the food of someone else? Something that made someone think that the food expired? (E.g. a hole on an apple?)... No to these
also the pen was black right? Assume so Relevant the color? No Was the color of the pen the same color of the food? No The same color of something that could appear on the food (a hole for instance, dark chocolate...) No

Did she eventually wrote down what she meant to? Yes, see above If so, did she put the food somewhere relevantly after? Yes
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Earnest » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:13 am

Did she put them on a desk? In her lunchbox? In the lunchbox of someone else? On a hawk? On a stick? Did she exchange her fruit with someone else's fruit?

Was it an angry face? An happy face? A neutral face? A smile? Did she draw the face on a side of the fruit? On both sides? Relevant? Did she relevantly peel the fruit on which she made the face? If so, before making the face? After? Did she use the peel relevantly? (E.g. by wrapping it on something? Maybe on another fruit?) Or did she exploit the entire fruit with the face?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:01 pm

Did she put them on a desk? In her lunchbox? In the lunchbox of someone else? On a hawk? On a stick? Did she exchange her fruit with someone else's fruit? No to these

Was it an angry face? This for both An happy face? A neutral face? A smile?
Did she draw the face on a side of the fruit? On both sides? She only drew one face per fruit Relevant? Yes
Did she relevantly peel the fruit on which she made the face? No, she did not peel it If so, before making the face? After? Did she use the peel relevantly? (E.g. by wrapping it on something? Maybe on another fruit?) Or did she exploit the entire fruit with the face?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:59 am

Were the faces there to: deter theft? Incite laughter? Express an emotion? A reaction? Make fun of someone? Or something?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Earnest » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:25 am

Did she want to communicate with someone? Did she want to eat them after lunch? Did she want to give them to someone? Did she put them in the lunch box of someone? Did she put them on the desk of someone? Did she throw them against someone? Against someone's car?

Relevant that the fruit were an apple and an orange? Just because of their shapes? Other meanings? Did she draw the faces in front of someone else? Did he/she asked her to depict such faces? Do the smiles consist just on simple lines (i.e. something along these lines: :evil: :x ) or an accurate representation of someone (with hair/glasses/facial expression and so on)? Did she has the opportunity to meet someone just at lunch time?
Were the faces angry because: she was angry with someone? a pun is involved? she wanted to communicate that the fruits were not seasonal/healthy? Did she do it as part oof her job? Did she have lunch at her work place? somewhere else? relevant? Did she want to tell someone that she has been there?

Relevant the reason why she used two fruits instead of just one? Did she want that two people receive the fruits? Or maybe the face was depicted using the two fruits together? or maybe she wanted to place the two in two different places? Would it have work had she used two apples? two oranges? Shakespeare relevant? Literature/culture?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:01 pm

Were the faces there to: deter theft? Incite laughter? This Express an emotion? A reaction? Make fun of someone? Or something?

Did she want to communicate with someone? Did she want to eat them after lunch? Did she want to give them to someone? Did she put them in the lunch box of someone? Did she put them on the desk of someone? Did she throw them against someone? Against someone's car? No to these

Relevant that the fruit were an apple and an orange? No Just because of their shapes? Other meanings? Did she draw the faces in front of someone else? Yes, some people eating with her Did he/she asked her to depict such faces? No/Irr Do the smiles consist just on simple lines (i.e. something along these lines: :evil: :x ) This, just generic angry faces or an accurate representation of someone (with hair/glasses/facial expression and so on)? Did she has the opportunity to meet someone just at lunch time? No
Were the faces angry because: she was angry with someone? a pun is involved? she wanted to communicate that the fruits were not seasonal/healthy? No to these Did she do it as part oof her job? No, slight FA Did she have lunch at her work place? FA somewhere else? relevant? Yes Did she want to tell someone that she has been there? No

Relevant the reason why she used two fruits instead of just one? Yes Did she want that two people receive the fruits? Or maybe the face was depicted using the two fruits together? or maybe she wanted to place the two in two different places? No to these Would it have work had she used two apples? two oranges? Yes to both Shakespeare relevant? Literature/culture? No to both
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Earnest » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:15 am

Did she have lunch? Did she serve the lunch to people? Was the fruit inside her lunchbox? Were two people discussing? Did she have lunch? Was it her work place? Was the fruit expired and she wanted to throw it off?

Had the faces been happy would the puzzle have worked? Did she make comments about the angry faces? communicate through them (e.g. to deaf people)? Communicate that a choice/something would have made her angry?

Relevant the reason why she used two fruits instead of just one? Yes --> she gave them to two different people? A HAM and an HAF? Others? were the people: children? guests? customers? colleagues? friends? others?

If so, did she put the food somewhere relevantly after? Yes --> on a tray? On two trays? On someone's hands? in someone's pockets? on two sticks? in place of something else? in the middle of other fruit? In a supermarket box? Inside a box? inside a bag? Did she take a picture of them? Use them as emoticons?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:52 am

Did she have lunch? Yes Did she serve the lunch to people? No Was the fruit inside her lunchbox? Yes Were two people discussing? Irrel Did she have lunch? Yes Was it her work place? FA Was the fruit expired and she wanted to throw it off? No

Had the faces been happy would the puzzle have worked? Not as well Did she make comments about the angry faces? Yope (at some point) communicate through them (e.g. to deaf people)? No Communicate that a choice/something would have made her angry? No

Relevant the reason why she used two fruits instead of just one? Yes -->
she gave them to two different people? No, so No to rest A HAM and an HAF? Others? were the people: children? guests? customers? colleagues? friends? others?

If so, did she put the food somewhere relevantly after? Yes -->
on a tray? On two trays? On someone's hands? in someone's pockets? on two sticks? in place of something else? in the middle of other fruit? In a supermarket box? Inside a box? inside a bag? Did she take a picture of them? Use them as emoticons? No to all
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:48 pm

Did she have a job? Go to school?- Did she feel relevant anger? Use the angry faces to contrast some other emotion? Did she have a disability?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:37 pm

Did she have a job? Go to school? This, No to rest Did she feel relevant anger? Use the angry faces to contrast some other emotion? Did she have a disability?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Earnest » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:29 am

is perspective relevant? Point of view? For instance she drew the two faces on the fruit. Far from her (realistically the two were being her and the "audience", i.e. the teens having lunch with her, in front of her) there were two angry people discussing. So she lifted up the two fruits so that they coincided with the faces of the two people from the perspective of the ones having lunch with her. Maybe she made hand movements imitating the words of the two.

This leaves, however, a question opened: why she brought the marker with her. Maybe the two always discuss? Or maybe she put inside the lunchbox not at home but at school when she perceived that the two would have a discussion? Or maybe she drew the faces before lunch?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:04 am

Did she do this to protect her lunch? For example from bullies who might steal it?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:17 pm

is perspective relevant? Point of view? Neither For instance she drew the two faces on the fruit. Far from her (realistically the two were being her and the "audience", i.e. the teens having lunch with her, in front of her) there were two angry people discussing. So she lifted up the two fruits so that they coincided with the faces of the two people from the perspective of the ones having lunch with her. Maybe she made hand movements imitating the words of the two. Nope, but not a bad idea. You have a good idea about the audience though

This leaves, however, a question opened: why she brought the marker with her. Maybe the two always discuss? Or maybe she put inside the lunchbox not at home but at school when she perceived that the two would have a discussion? No to these Or maybe she drew the faces before lunch? This would fit the scenario also

Did she do this to protect her lunch? For example from bullies who might steal it? Neither
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:23 pm

RECAP:
Teenage student Karalynn has a marker along with two fruits, an apple and an orange, in her lunchbox. She is going to draw angry faces on the fruit during lunch. Her classmates know about this.
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Hobbsicle » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:37 am

Is she going to give the fruit to someone else? A teacher? Or otherwise want a teacher to see it? Is it relevantly an apple and orange? Or could it have been an apricot and a mango? Is there a particular class relevant? If so, history, science, English, math, PE/sports, art, band, drama, government/economics, foreign language, computer, shop?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:22 am

Is she going to give the fruit to someone else? No A teacher? No Or otherwise want a teacher to see it? Yes
Is it relevantly an apple and orange? No Or could it have been an apricot and a mango? Theoretically
Is there a particular class relevant? No If so, history, science, English, math, PE/sports, art, band, drama, government/economics, foreign language, computer, shop?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby GalFisk » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:45 pm

Will she show the fruit to a teacher? Place it where a teacher can see? Is it meant for any teacher? Many teachers? One specific teacher? Did the classmates contribute to the idea? Come up with it?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:40 pm

Is she trying to make a statement? Such as a protest?
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Re: [Balin] Design of the times

Postby Balin » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:31 pm

Will she show the fruit to a teacher? Not exactly Place it where a teacher can see? Yes Is it meant for any teacher? Many teachers? One specific teacher? A number of teachers will see it Did the classmates contribute to the idea? Yes Come up with it? Irrel

Is she trying to make a statement? Such as a protest? No
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