[Balin] Design of the times (*TIMED OUT*)

[Balin]

Why does Karalynn have a marker in her lunchbox?

[GalFisk]

Karalynn: HAF? Is her name relevant? Is it a permanent marker? Whiteboard marker? Highlighter? Is there also lunch in the lunch box? If so, relevant what food? Does she have the marker so she can mark something? Does she have it there to hide it?

[Balin]

Karalynn: HAF? HTF Is her name relevant? No Is it a permanent marker? Assume so Whiteboard marker? This would probably work too Highlighter? Not so much this Is there also lunch in the lunch box? Yes If so, relevant what food? Yes, some of it Does she have the marker so she can mark something? Yes Does she have it there to hide it? That's not her main reason

[peter365]

Any relevant theft of food from communal fridges ?

Does she intend to write on the lunchbox ? on any of the other items contained in it? Is the colour of the marker relevant?

Does she intend to writer her own name? someone elses? an instruction ? a warning? something humorous ?

[Balin]

Any relevant theft of food from communal fridges? Not in this puzzle!

Does she intend to write on the lunchbox? on any of the other items contained in it? Yes Is the colour of the marker relevant? No; assume an ordinary black Sharpie

Does she intend to writer her own name? someone elses? an instruction ? a warning? No to these something humorous? Yes

[WiZ]

Does she plan to write on something then eat it? Does she write on an implement or similar associated with eating the relevant foodstuff? Does she identify or mis-identify a foodstuff or associated item?

[Balin]

Does she plan to write on something then eat it? No Does she write on an implement or similar associated with eating the relevant foodstuff? No Does she identify or mis-identify a foodstuff or associated item? No

[Earnest]

WAG: it was the lunchbox of her child. She was late and took it

[Balin]

WAG: it was the lunchbox of her child. She was late and took it No

[Earnest]

Had she written down the something at home before work, would it have been humorous? If not, because it depended on something that could have been seen just in her work place (e.g. the food of the others)?

Write something: on a piece of food? Maybe wrapped? If so, is the shape of the wrapped food relevant? On the food of someone else? On a box? Did she want to write down at lunch time? Did she want to write down the something on something related to her job? On a piece of paper? Was it the birthday of someone?

Write something = relevantly in capital letters? On a label? On a box? Did she want to write: a single word? A name? An adjective? A sentence? A paint? A sign? A symbol? Something to confound other people (collegues?)? The word "expired"? On the same part of the object where she wanted to write? (A counterexample would be the words on and off written on the front and on the back of the object) A word commonly written in certain devices? On tombstones? On objects having a particular shape?

[Balin]

Had she written down the something at home before work, would it have been humorous? Yes, FA If not, because it depended on something that could have been seen just in her work place Yes, FA (e.g. the food of the others)? No

Write something: on a piece of food? Yes Maybe wrapped? No If so, is the shape of the wrapped food relevant? Possibly (not "wrapped" though) On the food of someone else? No On a box? No Did she want to write down at lunch time? Yes Did she want to write down the something on something related to her job? No, FA On a piece of paper? No Was it the birthday of someone? No

Write something = relevantly in capital letters? On a label? On a box? No to these
Did she want to write: a single word? A name? An adjective? A sentence? A paint? A sign? A symbol? This-ish Something to confound other people (collegues?)? The word "expired"? On the same part of the object where she wanted to write? (A counterexample would be the words on and off written on the front and on the back of the object) A word commonly written in certain devices? On tombstones? On objects having a particular shape? Yes. No to rest

[Hobbsicle]

Did she write on a fruit? (Apple? Orange? Banana?) Did she write letters? Numbers? Draw a face? Draw something else?

[Earnest]

Did the piece of food belonged to her? Can we assume that the food had some sort of packaging? If so, were there symbols over it? Was ut the first time that she saw such food? Is it usual to eat it at lunchtime? Did she relevantly eat with someone else at lunchtime? If so, did the someone else fear some sort of animal? Have such a food? Was he/she the only one having such a food?

Food =a vegetable? Cookies? Something sweet? A coconut? Something that can be found in supermarkets? In vending machines? Cereals? In canteens?

Would the symbol that she was going to write down add something to the food? Made it resemble another thing (e.g. an animal? A brand? Others?)? E.g. did she paint: eyes? Smiles? Other traits typical of living creatures (mouth, hears...)? Just a trait of pen? A line? Was the something humorous in that: it concerned her work? It was embarassing? It put in evdence the weakness of someone? It confused someone? It confused the food of someone with the food of someone else? Something that made someone think that the food expired? (E.g. a hole on an apple?)...also the pen was black right? Relevant the color? Was the color of the pen the same color of the food? The same color of something that could appear on the food (a hole for instance, dark chocolate...)

Did she eventually wrote down what she meant to? If so, did she put the food somewhere relevantly after?

[Balin]

Did she write on a fruit? Yes (Apple? Yes Orange? And Yes Banana?) Did she write letters? Numbers? Draw a face? This Draw something else?

Did the piece of food belonged to her? Yes Can we assume that the food had some sort of packaging? No If so, were there symbols over it? Was ut the first time that she saw such food? No Is it usual to eat it at lunchtime? Yes Did she relevantly eat with someone else at lunchtime? Yes If so, did the someone else fear some sort of animal? No Have such a food? Irr Was he/she the only one having such a food? Irr

Food =a vegetable? Cookies? Something sweet? A coconut? Something that can be found in supermarkets? In vending machines? Cereals? In canteens? See above

Would the symbol that she was going to write down add something to the food? Made it resemble another thing Yes, see above (e.g. an animal? A brand? Others?)? E.g. did she paint: eyes? Smiles? Other traits typical of living creatures (mouth, hears...)? See above Just a trait of pen? A line?
Was the something humorous in that: it concerned her work? It was embarassing? It put in evdence the weakness of someone? It confused someone? It confused the food of someone with the food of someone else? Something that made someone think that the food expired? (E.g. a hole on an apple?)... No to these
also the pen was black right? Assume so Relevant the color? No Was the color of the pen the same color of the food? No The same color of something that could appear on the food (a hole for instance, dark chocolate...) No

Did she eventually wrote down what she meant to? Yes, see above If so, did she put the food somewhere relevantly after? Yes

[Earnest]

Did she put them on a desk? In her lunchbox? In the lunchbox of someone else? On a hawk? On a stick? Did she exchange her fruit with someone else's fruit?

Was it an angry face? An happy face? A neutral face? A smile? Did she draw the face on a side of the fruit? On both sides? Relevant? Did she relevantly peel the fruit on which she made the face? If so, before making the face? After? Did she use the peel relevantly? (E.g. by wrapping it on something? Maybe on another fruit?) Or did she exploit the entire fruit with the face?

[Balin]

Did she put them on a desk? In her lunchbox? In the lunchbox of someone else? On a hawk? On a stick? Did she exchange her fruit with someone else's fruit? No to these

Was it an angry face? This for both An happy face? A neutral face? A smile?
Did she draw the face on a side of the fruit? On both sides? She only drew one face per fruit Relevant? Yes
Did she relevantly peel the fruit on which she made the face? No, she did not peel it If so, before making the face? After? Did she use the peel relevantly? (E.g. by wrapping it on something? Maybe on another fruit?) Or did she exploit the entire fruit with the face?

[GalFisk]

Were the faces there to: deter theft? Incite laughter? Express an emotion? A reaction? Make fun of someone? Or something?

[Earnest]

Did she want to communicate with someone? Did she want to eat them after lunch? Did she want to give them to someone? Did she put them in the lunch box of someone? Did she put them on the desk of someone? Did she throw them against someone? Against someone's car?

Relevant that the fruit were an apple and an orange? Just because of their shapes? Other meanings? Did she draw the faces in front of someone else? Did he/she asked her to depict such faces? Do the smiles consist just on simple lines (i.e. something along these lines: ) or an accurate representation of someone (with hair/glasses/facial expression and so on)? Did she has the opportunity to meet someone just at lunch time?
Were the faces angry because: she was angry with someone? a pun is involved? she wanted to communicate that the fruits were not seasonal/healthy? Did she do it as part oof her job? Did she have lunch at her work place? somewhere else? relevant? Did she want to tell someone that she has been there?

Relevant the reason why she used two fruits instead of just one? Did she want that two people receive the fruits? Or maybe the face was depicted using the two fruits together? or maybe she wanted to place the two in two different places? Would it have work had she used two apples? two oranges? Shakespeare relevant? Literature/culture?

[Balin]

Were the faces there to: deter theft? Incite laughter? This Express an emotion? A reaction? Make fun of someone? Or something?

Did she want to communicate with someone? Did she want to eat them after lunch? Did she want to give them to someone? Did she put them in the lunch box of someone? Did she put them on the desk of someone? Did she throw them against someone? Against someone's car? No to these

Relevant that the fruit were an apple and an orange? No Just because of their shapes? Other meanings? Did she draw the faces in front of someone else? Yes, some people eating with her Did he/she asked her to depict such faces? No/Irr Do the smiles consist just on simple lines (i.e. something along these lines: ) This, just generic angry faces or an accurate representation of someone (with hair/glasses/facial expression and so on)? Did she has the opportunity to meet someone just at lunch time? No
Were the faces angry because: she was angry with someone? a pun is involved? she wanted to communicate that the fruits were not seasonal/healthy? No to these Did she do it as part oof her job? No, slight FA Did she have lunch at her work place? FA somewhere else? relevant? Yes Did she want to tell someone that she has been there? No

Relevant the reason why she used two fruits instead of just one? Yes Did she want that two people receive the fruits? Or maybe the face was depicted using the two fruits together? or maybe she wanted to place the two in two different places? No to these Would it have work had she used two apples? two oranges? Yes to both Shakespeare relevant? Literature/culture? No to both

[Earnest]

Did she have lunch? Did she serve the lunch to people? Was the fruit inside her lunchbox? Were two people discussing? Did she have lunch? Was it her work place? Was the fruit expired and she wanted to throw it off?

Had the faces been happy would the puzzle have worked? Did she make comments about the angry faces? communicate through them (e.g. to deaf people)? Communicate that a choice/something would have made her angry?

Relevant the reason why she used two fruits instead of just one? Yes --> she gave them to two different people? A HAM and an HAF? Others? were the people: children? guests? customers? colleagues? friends? others?

If so, did she put the food somewhere relevantly after? Yes --> on a tray? On two trays? On someone's hands? in someone's pockets? on two sticks? in place of something else? in the middle of other fruit? In a supermarket box? Inside a box? inside a bag? Did she take a picture of them? Use them as emoticons?

[Balin]

Did she have lunch? Yes Did she serve the lunch to people? No Was the fruit inside her lunchbox? Yes Were two people discussing? Irrel Did she have lunch? Yes Was it her work place? FA Was the fruit expired and she wanted to throw it off? No

Had the faces been happy would the puzzle have worked? Not as well Did she make comments about the angry faces? Yope (at some point) communicate through them (e.g. to deaf people)? No Communicate that a choice/something would have made her angry? No

Relevant the reason why she used two fruits instead of just one? Yes -->
she gave them to two different people? No, so No to rest A HAM and an HAF? Others? were the people: children? guests? customers? colleagues? friends? others?

If so, did she put the food somewhere relevantly after? Yes -->
on a tray? On two trays? On someone's hands? in someone's pockets? on two sticks? in place of something else? in the middle of other fruit? In a supermarket box? Inside a box? inside a bag? Did she take a picture of them? Use them as emoticons? No to all

[GalFisk]

Did she have a job? Go to school?- Did she feel relevant anger? Use the angry faces to contrast some other emotion? Did she have a disability?

[Balin]

Did she have a job? Go to school? This, No to rest Did she feel relevant anger? Use the angry faces to contrast some other emotion? Did she have a disability?

[Earnest]

is perspective relevant? Point of view? For instance she drew the two faces on the fruit. Far from her (realistically the two were being her and the "audience", i.e. the teens having lunch with her, in front of her) there were two angry people discussing. So she lifted up the two fruits so that they coincided with the faces of the two people from the perspective of the ones having lunch with her. Maybe she made hand movements imitating the words of the two.

This leaves, however, a question opened: why she brought the marker with her. Maybe the two always discuss? Or maybe she put inside the lunchbox not at home but at school when she perceived that the two would have a discussion? Or maybe she drew the faces before lunch?

[JenBurdoo]

Did she do this to protect her lunch? For example from bullies who might steal it?

[Balin]

is perspective relevant? Point of view? Neither For instance she drew the two faces on the fruit. Far from her (realistically the two were being her and the "audience", i.e. the teens having lunch with her, in front of her) there were two angry people discussing. So she lifted up the two fruits so that they coincided with the faces of the two people from the perspective of the ones having lunch with her. Maybe she made hand movements imitating the words of the two. Nope, but not a bad idea. You have a good idea about the audience though

This leaves, however, a question opened: why she brought the marker with her. Maybe the two always discuss? Or maybe she put inside the lunchbox not at home but at school when she perceived that the two would have a discussion? No to these Or maybe she drew the faces before lunch? This would fit the scenario also

Did she do this to protect her lunch? For example from bullies who might steal it? Neither

[Balin]

RECAP:
Teenage student Karalynn has a marker along with two fruits, an apple and an orange, in her lunchbox. She is going to draw angry faces on the fruit during lunch. Her classmates know about this.

[Hobbsicle]

Is she going to give the fruit to someone else? A teacher? Or otherwise want a teacher to see it? Is it relevantly an apple and orange? Or could it have been an apricot and a mango? Is there a particular class relevant? If so, history, science, English, math, PE/sports, art, band, drama, government/economics, foreign language, computer, shop?

[Balin]

Is she going to give the fruit to someone else? No A teacher? No Or otherwise want a teacher to see it? Yes
Is it relevantly an apple and orange? No Or could it have been an apricot and a mango? Theoretically
Is there a particular class relevant? No If so, history, science, English, math, PE/sports, art, band, drama, government/economics, foreign language, computer, shop?

[GalFisk]

Will she show the fruit to a teacher? Place it where a teacher can see? Is it meant for any teacher? Many teachers? One specific teacher? Did the classmates contribute to the idea? Come up with it?

[JenBurdoo]

Is she trying to make a statement? Such as a protest?

[Balin]

Will she show the fruit to a teacher? Not exactly Place it where a teacher can see? Yes Is it meant for any teacher? Many teachers? One specific teacher? A number of teachers will see it Did the classmates contribute to the idea? Yes Come up with it? Irrel

Is she trying to make a statement? Such as a protest? No

[Balin]

BIG HINT: Karalynn and her classmates are playing a joke.

[JenBurdoo]

Are they trying to fool someone? The teachers?

Are they hoping for a particular reaction? Such as evacuating the lunchroom?

[Balin]

Are they trying to fool someone? Yes The teachers? Yes

Are they hoping for a particular reaction? Yes Such as evacuating the lunchroom? No

[Earnest]

Sorry for having abandoned this one for a while.

So, relevant the number of classmates? Two? More than two? Less? Did she put the fruit in place of the classmates seats in the classroom? (e.g. she pretends that the classmates have been transformed into fruit)
Did they plan to place the fruit in such a way that the teacher notice the angry faces on them? That the teacher ask "what are these angry faces?"/"why these angry faces?"? Is blackboard relevant? The teacher's desk? The place where the eraser usually finds itself (e.g. near the blackboard)?

Are they hoping for a particular reaction? Yes --> surprise? shock? throwing the fruit? Bring to cancel the face? Asking a question? Make a sentence? Not a specific reaction but just curious about how the teachers would have reacted? Face of the teachers relevant?

Did they place the fruit in place of something else? (e.g. a globe? a clock? the fruit that they had on the desk normally? the head of the students? Is halloween relevant? Christmas balls?)

I was thinking about WAGing that they were in a wizarding school and trying to learn the magic counter spell to come back from fruit to human but it is simply too much xD

[Balin]

Sorry for having abandoned this one for a while. All good

So, relevant the number of classmates? No Two? More than two? Yes. Assume it's most of her class Less? Did she put the fruit in place of the classmates seats in the classroom? No (e.g. she pretends that the classmates have been transformed into fruit) No
Did they plan to place the fruit in such a way that the teacher notice the angry faces on them? Yes That the teacher ask "what are these angry faces?"/"why these angry faces?"? Is blackboard relevant? The teacher's desk? The place where the eraser usually finds itself (e.g. near the blackboard)? No to these

Are they hoping for a particular reaction? Yes --> surprise? shock? throwing the fruit? Bring to cancel the face? Asking a question? Make a sentence? Not initially Not a specific reaction but just curious about how the teachers would have reacted? No, they did want a certain reaction Face of the teachers relevant? No

Did they place the fruit in place of something else? No (e.g. a globe? a clock? the fruit that they had on the desk normally? the head of the students? Is halloween relevant? Christmas balls?) No to these

I was thinking about WAGing that they were in a wizarding school and trying to learn the magic counter spell to come back from fruit to human but it is simply too much xD Nope! Regular non-magical school

[Earnest]

Certain relevant reaction = after the first surprise? So maybe they want that teachers tell someone about such faces? Complain with someone? Tell someone? Change something? Understand their feeling?

Joke = the teachers find the faces where they expected to find something else? Where they did not expect to find anything?

Maybe the teachers try to take the apples but fail because the fruits are linked to a rope so that when they try to take them, the classmates tie the rope?

Are they present when the teachers have the relevant reaction? Does the whole scene take place inside class?

Did they put the fruits inside the class? Did they put inside a trash bin? On the teacher's desk? Newton's apple relevant?

[Balin]

Certain relevant reaction = after the first surprise? Yes, if I understand "first surprise" correctly So maybe they want that teachers tell someone about such faces? They want the teachers to see the fruit Complain with someone? Tell someone? Change something? Understand their feeling?

Joke = the teachers find the faces where they expected to find something else? Yes Where they did not expect to find anything?

Maybe the teachers try to take the apples but fail because the fruits are linked to a rope so that when they try to take them, the classmates tie the rope? no

Are they present when the teachers have the relevant reaction? Yes Does the whole scene take place inside class? No

Did they put the fruits inside the class? No Did they put inside a trash bin? On the teacher's desk? Newton's apple relevant? No to these

[Balin]

FINAL HINT: A pun is involved.

[GalFisk]

Is the kind of fruit relevant? The taste of the fruit? Sour taste relevant? Is it a pun on anger/angry? On a facial expression? Emotion? The name of a fruit? On "fruit"?

[Balin]

Is the kind of fruit relevant? The taste of the fruit? Sour taste relevant? No to all
Is it a pun on anger/angry? On a facial expression? Emotion? The name of a fruit? On "fruit"? No to all

[Balin]

This one's dragged.

****SPOILER****

Karalynn and her classmates stood in a circle, shouting "food fight!" and acting as though they were watching a fight. The teachers came to break it up, only to find an apple and orange with angry faces drawn on them.