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[Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:38 pm
by Balin
A woman loses one because she does not want to lose two. How?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:16 am
by hominid
A woman=she?

Is the one thing the same type of thing as the two things? Is it one of the two?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:43 am
by Earnest
Assuming woman = she.
Is money involved? Transactions? E.g. she had pieces of , 2,3,4,5 of a currency ($?) and had to pay 6 to a vending machine not giving change. Since the only ways of making 6 are 3+3, 5+1 or 4+2, but the former combinations were impossible with her amounts, while the latter combination could be done without losing the 2, she preferred to pay 7 (4+3).

If currency/money is involved, could she change her money somehow?

Was losing one the only way to avoid losing 2? Would the lost of 2 economically more expensive than the lost of 1? Vice versa? I mean, had 1 and 2 the same face value? The same value for her? Did they have a price? Was she forced to lose one or two? Is betting relevant? Are body parts relevant? Are the lost subsequents(i.e. she preferred to lose one nmtoday not to lose two at the same time? Or maybe there is a delay in time, e.g. she preferred not to lose one today in order not to lose two in years from now?) E.g. she preferred to lose a kidney today in irder not to lose both (and life) in two years?

Are the one and two substiute one to another? Could they be easily replaced/rebought/regained by her?

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:31 am
by GalFisk
Did she know she might lose one? Did she successfully avoid losing two? Could she get another one? Did she have two to lose? More? Less?

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:09 pm
by Balin
A woman=she? Yes

Is the one thing the same type of thing as the two things? Yes Is it one of the two? [bNo[/b]

Assuming woman = she.
Is money involved? Not directly Transactions? but Yes, tangentially E.g. she had pieces of , 2,3,4,5 of a currency ($?) and had to pay 6 to a vending machine not giving change. Since the only ways of making 6 are 3+3, 5+1 or 4+2, but the former combinations were impossible with her amounts, while the latter combination could be done without losing the 2, she preferred to pay 7 (4+3). Nothing like this, though

If currency/money is involved, could she change her money somehow? Irrel

Was losing one the only way to avoid losing 2? Not necessarily Would the lost of 2 economically more expensive than the lost of 1? Yes, I believe so Vice versa? so No I mean, had 1 and 2 the same face value? No The same value for her? Yes (not economic value, though) Did they have a price? Yes Was she forced to lose one or two? No Is betting relevant? No Are body parts relevant? No Are the lost subsequents(i.e. she preferred to lose one nmtoday not to lose two at the same time? Or maybe there is a delay in time, e.g. she preferred not to lose one today in order not to lose two in years from now?) There is no set time when she would lose two - it could be days or months E.g. she preferred to lose a kidney today in irder not to lose both (and life) in two years? No

Are the one and two substiute one to another? Not quite sure what you mean Could they be easily replaced/rebought/regained by her? Yes, but it would be a chunk of change

Did she know she might lose one? Yes Did she successfully avoid losing two? Yes Could she get another one? Yes Did she have two to lose? Yes More? Less? Exactly two

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:46 pm
by irishelk
Lose as in misplace? give up voluntarily? leave behind? drop? (if the meanings are different, same question for the second "lose"). Did she have the one forcibly taken from her? Did she know right away that she had lost it? Did she know for sure she would lose it before it happened? Does someone else come into possession of the one she loses?

So there are three things total, right? Does she have all three before she loses one?

Are the things alive? Are they tangible?

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:07 pm
by GalFisk
Lose: destroy? Give away? Have confiscated? Or destroyed? Drop? Have come loose? Are the two identical? Mirror images? Can one have more than two? Would one want to? Do they come in pairs? Is she in trouble? Could she choose to lose none?
Edit: lose: mislay? Abandon? Could she have lost 1.5? If so, would the remaining 0.5 be useless? Less than 50% as useful as 1?

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:09 am
by Earnest
Are 1 and 2 labels? Quantities? Names? Simply numbers? Numbers that she chose? Or do they refer to objects? To something else? To someone else? Are choices relevant? Means of transportation? Children?

Could she have another one had she got 0? If not, because she would not have been alive? Had she lost 2 would she be left with 0? Relevant?
Relevant that 1 is odd and 2 even?

Assuming she could decide to lose 1 or 2 (can she?).
Had she decided to lose 2, would she have remained with 1? Would she have had something in exchange? Is some boundary relevant? E.g. a finite amout of money? Are offers relevant? Lots? Auctions? Books? Art?
Could she avoid losing 1 and 2?
By losing 1, did she have more money to buy 2?

Did they have a price? Yes  --> was it relevantly displayed?

"Loses 1 because she does not want to lose 2" means that sbe lost less than she wanted to lose? I mean less in quantity (as 1<2).

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:38 am
by Balin
Lose as in misplace? give up voluntarily? This for the first one leave behind? drop? (if the meanings are different, same question for the second "lose"). None of the previous for the second one Did she have the one forcibly taken from her? No Did she know right away that she had lost it? Yes Did she know for sure she would lose it before it happened? No Does someone else come into possession of the one she loses? Irrel

So there are three things total, right? Yes, possible FA Does she have all three before she loses one? No

Are the things alive? No Are they tangible? Yes

Lose: destroy? Give away? Have confiscated? Or destroyed? Drop? Have come loose? No to these, see above
Are the two identical? Yes Mirror images? No Can one have more than two? Yes Would one want to? Depends on the circumstance Do they come in pairs? No Is she in trouble? No Could she choose to lose none? Yes
Edit: lose: mislay? Abandon? Neither Could she have lost 1.5? No If so, would the remaining 0.5 be useless? Less than 50% as useful as 1?

Are 1 and 2 labels? Quantities? This Names? Simply numbers? No Numbers that she chose? Or do they refer to objects? Yes To something else? To someone else? Are choices relevant? No Means of transportation? Yes! Children? No

Could she have another one had she got 0? Yes If not, because she would not have been alive? Had she lost 2 would she be left with 0? Yes Relevant? Yes
Relevant that 1 is odd and 2 even? No

Assuming she could decide to lose 1 or 2 (can she?). Yes
Had she decided to lose 2, would she have remained with 1? No Would she have had something in exchange? In this case, Yes, actually Is some boundary relevant? No E.g. a finite amout of money? No Are offers relevant? Lots? Auctions? Books? Art? None of these
Could she avoid losing 1 and 2? It would be possible, but not necessarily easy
By losing 1, did she have more money to buy 2? No

Did they have a price? Yes --> was it relevantly displayed? Irrel

"Loses 1 because she does not want to lose 2" means that sbe lost less than she wanted to lose? In a sense, Yes I mean less in quantity (as 1<2).

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:44 am
by Earnest
Is CoVid relevant? Changes in schedules? Something like she decided to lose a direct airplane on the 10th of March to avoid losing two airplanes (e.g. she needed to stop in an Airport) in the return trip?

So means of transportation = bus? Train? Taxi? Airplane? Something that has relevantly a schedule? If so, did 1 and 2 have a schedule? Arrivals and departures relevant? Did she need to make a round-trip? Was she in delay? In losing one, did she get another one? If so, later on? If so, maybe in losing one she avoided an overlap of schedules? Or maybe the other way round? I.e. she avoid losing a mean of transportation before, she lost the next one, but that way she was able to catch the return mean of transportation?

Are tickets relevant? Reimboursement relevant? Events relevant? Happenings? Accidents? Something unexpected?

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:18 pm
by Balin
Is CoVid relevant? No Changes in schedules? No Something like she decided to lose a direct airplane on the 10th of March to avoid losing two airplanes (e.g. she needed to stop in an Airport) in the return trip? No

So means of transportation = bus? Train? Taxi? Airplane? None of these Something that has relevantly a schedule? No If so, did 1 and 2 have a schedule? Arrivals and departures relevant? Did she need to make a round-trip? Was she in delay? No to all
In losing one, did she get another one? No If so, later on? If so, maybe in losing one she avoided an overlap of schedules? no Or maybe the other way round? I.e. she avoid losing a mean of transportation before, she lost the next one, but that way she was able to catch the return mean of transportation? No

Are tickets relevant? Reimboursement relevant? Events relevant? Happenings? For svv of "happenings." No to rest Accidents? Something unexpected?

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:28 pm
by markobr
Means of transportation: Car? Bicycle? Motorcyle? Ship? Boat? Helicopter? Space craft? Elevator? Some vehicle drawn by animals? Scooter? Roller scates?

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:58 pm
by Balin
Means of transportation: ... Bicycle? This

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:00 pm
by GalFisk
Does she lose a bicycle? Does she not want to lose two bicycles?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:03 pm
by Balin
Does she lose a bicycle? She does lose a bicycle, but a bicycle is not the "one" she loses Does she not want to lose two bicycles? No

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:07 pm
by markobr
Is the "one" part of a bicycle? Wheel? Brake? Rack? Pedal? Handle grip? Light?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:17 pm
by GalFisk
WAG: does she remove a part from her bicycle to make it less attractive to bicycle thieves, but then lose this part?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:36 pm
by Balin
Is the "one" part of a bicycle? Yes Wheel? This Brake? Rack? Pedal? Handle grip? Light?

WAG: does she remove a part from her bicycle to make it less attractive to bicycle thieves, but then lose this part? No

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:16 am
by GalFisk
Does she lose one wheel of a two-wheeled bicycle? If so, the front wheel? Rear wheel? Does she get an unicycle? Bike theft relevant? Are unicycles less frequently stolen?

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:15 pm
by Balin
Does she lose one wheel of a two-wheeled bicycle? See next... If so, the front wheel? Rear wheel? Does she get an unicycle? Yes! Bike theft relevant? Yes Are unicycles less frequently stolen? And

****SPOILER****

The woman is an avid cyclist, but there has been a series of bike thefts where she lives. So she learns to ride a unicycle, assuming (and hoping) that no one will steal it since they won't know how to ride it.

Nicely done!

Re: [Balin] ...for the price of... (*CYCLED OUT*)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:55 pm
by Doriana
Nice one, sorry for not joining!

Guess who recently bought a unicycle but hasn't yet learnt to ride it... not a theft-related purchase, though, but one fuelled by lockdown-induced boredom