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[CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:49 pm

Tim lives three miles away from a building with broken windows, Sanders lives two thousand miles away from the same building. Neither Tim or Sanders have even been inside the building, but they are both very relieved when they learn that the broken windows are fixed. Why?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Doriana » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:54 pm

Tim = H/A/M? Sanders = H/A/M?
Do they know each other?

Does Sanders live in the same country the building is in? On the same continent? Relevant?

Relevant how long the windows have been broken? Relevant why they are broken? Did Tim break the windows? Did Sanders?

Any crimes relevant? If so, committed by Tim? by Sanders?
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Postby AlbatrossLover » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:46 am

Relevant what type of building it is? Is it a residential building? Does Tim know someone who lives/works in that building? Does Sanders?

Did the windows being fixed cause relief to people besides Tim and Sanders? To other people who had never been in the building? Is the general public interested in this situation?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Earnest » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:21 am

Natural catastrophes relevant? Were other people relieved for the same reason? Fingerprints relevant? Did Sanders and Tm know each other? Meet each other? Could the building be defined unsafe before the windows have been fixed? If so, for say "structural" reason? Or for other reasons? Was the building: an house? a public place? An abandoned place?

Relevant the reason why the windows were broken? Were they broken by humans? Were they broken several times? Were Tim and Sanders afraid of something? Afraid of what/who broke the windows?

Main problem with broken windows: people could freely go in/out the building? relevant who repaired the windows?

Is the building is a lighthouse? Control tower? Is war relevant? (e.g. repairing windows was a symbolic act to establish peace: e.g. a man fixed the window of a building belonging to enemies) If so, were Tim and Sanders on opposite sides?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:22 pm

Tim = H/A/M? Sanders = H/A/M? Yes
Do they know each other? No
Does Sanders live in the same country the building is in? Yes On the same continent? Yes, this too Relevant? Yes
Relevant how long the windows have been broken? Not really Relevant why they are broken? Yes
Did Tim break the windows? Did Sanders? No to both
Any crimes relevant? No If so, committed by Tim? by Sanders? N/A

Relevant what type of building it is? Yes Is it a residential building? No
Does Tim know someone who lives/works in that building? Does Sanders? Neither of them do
Did the windows being fixed cause relief to people besides Tim and Sanders? Oh yes, very much so
To other people who had never been in the building? Yes, very much so Is the general public interested in this situation? Yes

Natural catastrophes relevant? No Were other people relieved for the same reason? Yes Fingerprints relevant? No
Did Sanders and Tm know each other? No Meet each other? No
Could the building be defined unsafe before the windows have been fixed? Yes If so, for say "structural" reason? Yes
Or for other reasons? No, structural concern is the only relevant issue Was the building: an house? a public place? An abandoned place? No to all
Relevant the reason why the windows were broken? Yes Were they broken by humans? No - good question Were they broken several times? Can you ask this in another way? Were Tim and Sanders afraid of something? In a way, yes Afraid of what/who broke the windows? No
Main problem with broken windows: people could freely go in/out the building? No - explore this relevant who repaired the windows? Yes
Is the building is a lighthouse? Control tower? No to these
Is war relevant? (e.g. repairing windows was a symbolic act to establish peace: e.g. a man fixed the window of a building belonging to enemies) If so, were Tim and Sanders on opposite sides? No to this
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Earnest » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:28 pm

Were they broken by humans? No - good question --> excluding natural catastrophes...by animals? Very loud noises? An accident?

Were they broken several times? Can you ask this in another way? --> I mean was it a unique event that caused the windows to be broken or maybe the same event repeated in time (e.g. pigeons could not see the windows. They hit them many times and after a lot of pigeons hit the windows they got broken)

Had the building more than 4 windows? Were all the windows broken? Were the windows broken from the inside? From the outside?

Main problem with broken windows: people could freely go in/out the building? No - explore this --> maybe it Wass a very high building and only the windows at the last floor have been broken?
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Postby AlbatrossLover » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:11 am

Was it a government building? A historical building? Were the windows fixed by the government? A private entity?

Was the main problem that people couldn't freely go in and out of the building? Was there some sort of destruction in the building beyond the broken windows?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:27 pm

Were they broken by humans? No - good question --> excluding natural catastrophes...by animals? No Very loud noises? No
An accident? Yes

Were they broken several times? Can you ask this in another way? --> I mean was it a unique event that caused the windows to be broken or maybe the same event repeated in time (e.g. pigeons could not see the windows. They hit them many times and after a lot of pigeons hit the windows they got broken) It was a repeated act that caused the windows to break, yes

Had the building more than 4 windows? Yes Were all the windows broken? Unknown, but probably not Were the windows broken from the inside? From the outside? Inside-ish

Main problem with broken windows: people could freely go in/out the building? No - explore this --> maybe it Was a very high building and only the windows at the last floor have been broken? All of the windows are on the first floor
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:28 pm

Was it a government building? No A historical building? In a way, yes - explore
Were the windows fixed by the government? A private entity? This

Was the main problem that people couldn't freely go in and out of the building? No, this was not affected
Was there some sort of destruction in the building beyond the broken windows? Yes
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Earnest » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:04 pm

are pyramids involved? libraries? monuments? statues?
accident: any of these involved: corrosion? gas leak? water? unknown reasons? heat (e.g. the windows slowly melted)? vegetation growing? melting of ice (maybe an hotel made of ice)?
Legends relevant? history of the building? Halloween?

Is the building visited by people? By children (e.g. the children of the two with the school)?

Is the building in USA? Europe? Asia? Africa? Is the building relevantly surrounded by other buildings?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:15 pm

Were the windows broken by shifting of the walls? Foundation shifting?

Was the repeated action that broke the windows something that happened in the walls of the building? Inside some other structural component?

Is it a building of cultural significance? Is it used as an arts venue/gallery/museum? Is it a church? Mosque? Synagogue? Other religious building?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:36 pm

are pyramids involved? libraries? No monuments? statues? Strictly speaking, no, but explore
accident: any of these involved: corrosion? gas leak? water? unknown reasons? heat (e.g. the windows slowly melted)? vegetation growing? melting of ice (maybe an hotel made of ice)? None of these, but the reason is very well known to the people involved
Legends relevant? history of the building? This Halloween?

Is the building visited by people? Yes By children (e.g. the children of the two with the school)? Visited by people of all ages

Is the building in USA? Yes Europe? Asia? Africa? Is the building relevantly surrounded by other buildings? Yes


Were the windows broken by shifting of the walls? Yes Foundation shifting? No

Was the repeated action that broke the windows something that happened in the walls of the building? No, but... Inside some other structural component? ...this, yes

Is it a building of cultural significance? Yes
Is it used as an arts venue/gallery/museum? Is it a church? Mosque? Synagogue? Other religious building? No to all
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Balin » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:16 am

Were the windows broken by an earthquake?
Were the windows particularly old? Did they form a design?
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Postby Earnest » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:36 pm

Inside some other structural component? ...this, yes --> floor? material of the foundations relevant? Is it a LEGO building (so the reason of concern is the stability of the building itself)?

Is the building visited by people? Yes By children (e.g. the children of the two with the school)? Visited by people of all ages --> are the broken windows one of the reason why the building is visited?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:43 pm

Were the windows broken by an earthquake? No but OTRT
Were the windows particularly old? No Did they form a design? No

Inside some other structural component? ...this, yes --> floor? No material of the foundations relevant? No
Is it a LEGO building (so the reason of concern is the stability of the building itself)? No

Is the building visited by people? Yes By children (e.g. the children of the two with the school)? Visited by people of all ages --> are the broken windows one of the reason why the building is visited? No
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Earnest » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:54 pm

Were the windows broken by an earthquake? No but OTR --> something producing quakes? high frequency waves? something falling inside the building thus producing quakes? The equivalent of an earthquake? Something collapsing inside the building?

Are stairs relevant?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:04 pm

Were the windows broken by an earthquake? No but OTR --> something producing quakes? Yes
high frequency waves? No something falling inside the building thus producing quakes? Not falling, but OTRT The equivalent of an earthquake? Not to this degree but yes Something collapsing inside the building? Not collapsing, no

Are stairs relevant? No
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:25 am

Is the building a seismology research centre? (You know, one of those world-famous ones, like the, umm, Shaky Ground Institute of Northern Idaho?) Is it an educational institution? Casino? Movie theatre? Sports stadium? Eatery/bar? Hotel? Monument? Is it the Statue of Liberty?
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Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:57 pm

Is the building a seismology research centre? (You know, one of those world-famous ones, like the, umm, Shaky Ground Institute of Northern Idaho?) No
Is it an educational institution? Casino? Movie theatre? Sports stadium? Eatery/bar? It is a restaurant Hotel? Monument? Is it the Statue of Liberty?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Balin » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:28 am

Was the quake-like thing caused by natural forces? An explosion?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Earnest » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:49 pm

To be sure: it is a restaurant in a building right? In contrast with a mobile restaurant maybe on a train (the train had an accident and the windows got broken).

something falling inside the building thus producing quakes? Not falling, but OTRT --> something moved from a place to another? someone hitting something? Something hitting the floor? Something entering the building from the outside suddenly (e.g. fallen meteor)? river overflows/tornados relevant? Were the quakes caused by an impact (e.g. something went wrong on a train statin and a train?

Did someone got injured when the windows broke?

Were the quakes produced only inside the restaurant? Also outside? Were the quakes produced by something inside the restaurant? Outside? Is the building very old? Its the structure of the building unusual? ls the building incomplete? Under construction?

but they are both very relieved when they learn that the broken windows are fixed --> because they were build another way? They were reinforced? They were made bulletproof? Anti collision? More visible? Were the same windows repaired? or maybe other windows build in another place of the restaurant?

Again to be sure: are we talking about regular windows? (in opposition maybe to windows of an aquarium or other types of internal windows...or maybe a windows on the ceiling)
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Postby wunderland » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:38 pm

Are Tim and Sanders individually relevant at all?
Are doors relevant? Ceilings? Roofs? Lifts? Escalators?
Were the windows repaired by the owner of the building? a new owner? the owner of a nearby building? Tim? Sanders?
Are all the windows in the building on the first floor? or just all the broken windows? and to be clear, by "first floor" you mean the floor at ground level, right?
Are robots relevant?
Were animals entering through the broken windows? and eating the food?
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Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:31 pm

Was the quake-like thing caused by natural forces? An explosion? Neither

To be sure: it is a restaurant in a building right? Yes
In contrast with a mobile restaurant maybe on a train (the train had an accident and the windows got broken). This is not the case

something falling inside the building thus producing quakes? Not falling, but OTRT --> something moved from a place to another? OTRT but not exactly someone hitting something? No Something hitting the floor? No Something entering the building from the outside suddenly (e.g. fallen meteor)? No
river overflows/tornados relevant? No
Were the quakes caused by an impact (e.g. something went wrong on a train station and a train? No, impact is not a cause

Did someone got injured when the windows broke? No

Were the quakes produced only inside the restaurant? Yes Also outside? No
Were the quakes produced by something inside the restaurant? Yes-ish (might be FA here) Outside? In a slight way, yes Is the building very old? DYOD of "very old", but the age of the building is relevant
Its the structure of the building unusual? YES ls the building incomplete? Under construction? No the building is constructed

but they are both very relieved when they learn that the broken windows are fixed --> because they were build another way? They were reinforced? They were made bulletproof? Anti collision? More visible? No to all
Were the same windows repaired? Yes or maybe other windows build in another place of the restaurant? No, the broken windows were replaced with new ones in the same place

Again to be sure: are we talking about regular windows? Yes (in opposition maybe to windows of an aquarium or other types of internal windows...or maybe a windows on the ceiling)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:33 pm

Are Tim and Sanders individually relevant at all? There is only one relevant thing about each of these people
Are doors relevant? Ceilings? Roofs? Lifts? Escalators? None of these
Were the windows repaired by the owner of the building? Yes a new owner? Relatively new, yes
the owner of a nearby building? Tim? Sanders? No to these
Are all the windows in the building on the first floor? Yes or just all the broken windows? So yes and to be clear, by "first floor" you mean the floor at ground level, right? Yes, that's right
Are robots relevant? No
Were animals entering through the broken windows? No, partial FA here and eating the food? No
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby wunderland » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:31 pm

Were the broken windows in exterior walls? interior walls? both?
Is the building a single storey building? Does it have a clearly defined "inside"?
Was the building actively operating as a restaurant after the windows were broken, but before they were repaired?
Is the restaurant part of a franchise / chain?
Were structural repairs made separately at the same time as the windows were replaced? or were the windows themselves important to the building's stability?
Are Tim and Sanders relevant for the same reason? different reasons? is it that they wanted to eat at the restaurant? invest in it? work there? supply food to it? were other people relieved for the same reason(s)?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:33 pm

Were the broken windows in exterior walls? interior walls? both? It could have been either or both, the number and location of the broken windows is not relevant
Is the building a single story building? Yes, but... Does it have a clearly defined "inside"? Yes, but...
Was the building actively operating as a restaurant after the windows were broken, but before they were repaired? Yes
Is the restaurant part of a franchise / chain? Yes
Were structural repairs made separately at the same time as the windows were replaced? Yes - good q
or were the windows themselves important to the building's stability? No
Are Tim and Sanders relevant for the same reason? Yes different reasons? They share one thing that is directly relevant
is it that they wanted to eat at the restaurant? No, not this invest in it? work there? supply food to it? None of these
were other people relieved for the same reason(s)? Oh yes, very many people - good q
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:31 pm

Is it relevant what chain it is? McDonald’s? Starbucks? Fast food place? Is it the first restaurant of its chain?

Is the restaurant built into an important geographical feature? Or into something else significant? Is the first/ground floor actually completely at ground level?
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Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:17 pm

Is it relevant what chain it is? Yes, one certain thing about it is McDonald’s? Starbucks? Not these Fast food place? Yes
Is it the first restaurant of its chain? No

Is the restaurant built into an important geographical feature? No Or into something else significant? Yes-ish Is the first/ground floor actually completely at ground level? Yes
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby wunderland » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:56 pm

Is the restaurant attached to another building? Inside another building?
Is the restaurant unusually tall for a single storey building?
Is a significant part of it underground?
Is the building used for another purpose besides the restaurant? Was it previously?

Is the relevant thing about the chain: its nationality? its logo / mascot? the type of food it serves? one of its signature products / dishes? its owner? the number of restaurants in the chain? its financial value? its age? something about its employees? / customers? how it manages its buildings?
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Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:52 pm

Is the restaurant attached to another building? Not exactly but very close to this Inside another building? No
Is the restaurant unusually tall for a single storey building? Not the entire thing but OTRT
Is a significant part of it underground? No, none of it is
Is the building used for another purpose besides the restaurant? Was it previously? No to both

Is the relevant thing about the chain: its nationality? its logo / mascot? the type of food it serves? THIS one of its signature products / dishes? its owner? the number of restaurants in the chain? its financial value? its age? something about its employees? / customers? how it manages its buildings?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:46 am

Is the relevant thing it serves food? A beverage? Is it a main meal thing? Side item? Dessert? Snack? Breakfast? A burger? Sandwich? Pizza? Wrap? Noodle-based? Salad? Fries? Is it vegetarian? Made of fish/seafood? Meat? Would it be called American cuisine?
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Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:02 pm

Is the relevant thing it serves food? Yes A beverage? Is it a main meal thing? Yes
Side item? Dessert? Snack? Breakfast? A burger? Sandwich? Pizza? Wrap? Noodle-based? Salad? Fries? Is it vegetarian? Made of fish/seafood? No to all
Meat? Yes Would it be called American cuisine? Yes
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:35 am

Hot dogs? Is the meat: beef? Pig? Chicken? Bison? Deer?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby wunderland » Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:05 pm

Is there a large model of the food item attached to the building? (eg a giant chicken or hot dog)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:31 pm

Hot dogs? Is the meat: beef? Pig? Chicken? This Bison? Deer?

Is there a large model of the food item attached to the building? Yes, it's a...giant chicken
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby wunderland » Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:32 pm

Is the giant chicken the cause of the damage? Is it too heavy for the building to support? Is it attached to the roof? or a wall? Is the giant chicken itself damaged?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:20 pm

KFC, then?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby irishelk » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:29 pm

Are the two relieved because they are actually concerned about the safety of the building? Or the continuation of the restaurant? Or the giant chicken itself? Do they plan to go to the restaurant in the future? Do they stand to financially benefit from its continued existence? Are their jobs related to it in any way?

Are they relieved because the repair is an indication of something else? Like that the owner cares about the building, or has future plans for it? Are they more concerned about the town/area in which the restaurant is located?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:22 pm

Is Sanders Col. Sanders? Is he connected to the restaurant via work somehow? Is Tim?

Was the repair work being done on the chicken? Some jackhammering?

Had the windows already been broken by the time the other work had started?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:49 pm

Is the giant chicken the cause of the damage? One aspect of it, yes Is it too heavy for the building to support? No, partial FA (keep reading)
Is it attached to the roof? Party, and also... or a wall? ...this. Is the giant chicken itself damaged? Partly, yes
KFC, then? Yes

Are the two relieved because they are actually concerned about the safety of the building? To a small degree but not mainly
Or the continuation of the restaurant? Yes, in connection with... Or the giant chicken itself? ...this.
Do they plan to go to the restaurant in the future? Tim possibly, Sanders not likely
Do they stand to financially benefit from its continued existence? No
Are their jobs related to it in any way? Tim's is only to a small degree, Sanders's is directly related

Are they relieved because the repair is an indication of something else? Yes
Like that the owner cares about the building, or has future plans for it? Future plans are relevant, yes
Are they more concerned about the town/area in which the restaurant is located? Yes, but this is directly related to the restaurant

Is Sanders Col. Sanders? No (this is a pure coincidence of name choice) Is he connected to the restaurant via work somehow? Yes, in a specific way (his job is related to the restaurant, but he does not work for the company and has no direct ties with it) Is Tim? No

Was the repair work being done on the chicken? Some of it, yes Some jackhammering? No - FA here, I think

Had the windows already been broken by the time the other work had started? Yes, I think this clears up the FA
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:51 am

Did you mean that one aspect of the chicken the cause of all the window damage? That the chicken is the cause of one aspect of the window damage? Does it matter? Am I too pedantic?

Does it matter what part of the chicken caused the damage? If so, the head? Beak? Wings? Body? Legs? Tail? The eleven delicious herbs and spices it was sprinkled with? (Ha ha.)

Is Sanders’ job related to poultry? Farming? Construction? Marketing? Architecture? PR? Did he design the chicken? The building?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:08 pm

Did you mean that one aspect of the chicken the cause of all the window damage? Yes
That the chicken is the cause of one aspect of the window damage? Does it matter? Yes
Am I too pedantic? No, one certain aspect of the chicken caused the damage, this is what needed to be cleared up

Does it matter what part of the chicken caused the damage? If so, the head? Beak? Wings? Body? Legs? Tail? The eleven delicious herbs and spices it was sprinkled with? (Ha ha.) It does matter because of one other issue. "Head" is the closest and is OTRT but it's more specific...

Is Sanders’ job related to poultry? Farming? Construction? Marketing? Architecture? PR? Did he design the chicken? The building? No to all
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:50 pm

The comb? Wattle? Neck? Ears? Eyes? Something the chicken was wearing on its head?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:10 pm

The comb? Wattle? Neck? Ears? Eyes? This Something the chicken was wearing on its head?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby GalFisk » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:49 am

Did the eye(s) fall off? Explode? Break? Need replacement?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:05 pm

Did the eye(s) fall off? Explode? Break? Need replacement? <- This, and not just the eyes themselves...
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:54 pm

Part of the eyes? The eye socket(s)? Something behind the eyes?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:47 pm

Part of the eyes? The eye socket(s)? Something behind the eyes? Yes, this
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby wunderland » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:37 pm

Animatronics?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby GalFisk » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:54 am

Were there light bulbs behind the eyes? Other light sources? Something electrical needing replacement?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:13 pm

Some sort of structure holding the eye in place?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:24 pm

Animatronics? Yes - see below
Were there light bulbs behind the eyes? Other light sources? No to both
Something electrical needing replacement? Yes, along with something else
Some sort of structure holding the eye in place? Yes, but another function as well
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby GalFisk » Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:02 pm

Moving the eyes? Blinking/winking? Closing the eyes? Moving something apart from the eyes?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:56 pm

Moving the eyes? Yes Blinking/winking? Closing the eyes? Not these, the movement of the eyes is all that's relevant
Moving something apart from the eyes? No, but other moving parts besides the eyes are related
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:11 am

Were the windows made of glass?

Did normal movements within the restaurant cause the damage? Repeated footsteps? The movement of the animatronics?

Would damage to the chicken require closure of the restaurant? Damage the economy of the town?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Were the windows made of glass? Yes

Did normal movements within the restaurant cause the damage? Repeated footsteps? No
The movement of the animatronics? Yes to this

Would damage to the chicken require closure of the restaurant? Yes
Damage the economy of the town? Possibly, but there is a more direct connection to Tim and Sanders
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby wunderland » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:36 pm

Is Sanders' job related to animatronics? or Tim's?
Are the "quakes" caused by the mechanism for moving the eyes? or by the eyes themselves as they move? are they caused by slipping gears? are they vibrations caused by friction? are they caused by the "other moving parts"?
Are the other moving parts: giant chicken parts (e.g. a beak, although that specific one has already been ruled out)? animatronics not connected to the eyes? passive moving parts (e.g. hinges)? something external to the chicken? are they mechanically connected to the eye movement mechanism?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:56 pm

Is Sanders' job related to animatronics? or Tim's? Neither
Are the "quakes" caused by the mechanism for moving the eyes? Yes or by the eyes themselves as they move? Possibly but not to as much of a degree are they caused by slipping gears? Not known
are they vibrations caused by friction? are they caused by the "other moving parts"? Any of this is possible, but it's primarily the mechanism moving the eyes that caused the damage to the windows
Are the other moving parts: giant chicken parts (e.g. a beak, although that specific one has already been ruled out)? No, just the eyes animatronics not connected to the eyes? passive moving parts (e.g. hinges)? something external to the chicken? are they mechanically connected to the eye movement mechanism? Not relevant
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:00 pm

RECAP - The windows at a KFC restaurant become cracked due to vibrations in the building. The vibrations are caused by movement of machinery that rotates the eyes of a giant chicken-like structure that is part of the building.

Both Tim and Sanders share a connection to the building, even though Tim lives only a few miles from it and Sanders lives thousands of miles away. Neither of them have ever worked there, they are not involved in the repair of the windows and may not have ever even been to the restaurant. What is the connection they share?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:04 pm

REMINDERS: Many people besides Tim and Sanders are relieved when the windows are repaired; it's unlikely that either of them know anyone who works at the restaurant; in a way, both Tim and Sanders feared something.
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:10 am

Was what they feared related to: economic loss? Cultural loss? Loss of life?

Is there anything else exceptional about the windows? Or the rest of the restaurant?

Has this restaurant been in a relevant film/show? Has it been featured in a book? In some other item of cultural significance? In something else that has a following?

Is the connection that Tim and Sanders have related to an interest of theirs? A hobby? A sport? A film/TV show/stage production? A musician? Playing music? A book?

Early on you said that the building (now known to be a KFC) is relevantly surrounded by other buildings. Are they more concerned with one of these buildings than with the KFC? Is it relevant what these buildings are?

Can't remember if this has already been asked, but is it the original KFC? Is it a KFC in a famous place, like Disney World or something like that?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:34 pm

Was what they feared related to: economic loss? No Cultural loss? OTRT Loss of life? No

Is there anything else exceptional about the windows? Or the rest of the restaurant? There is one exceptional thing about it that is important to Tim and Sanders (and a lot of other people too)

Has this restaurant been in a relevant film/show? Probably Has it been featured in a book? Probably
In some other item of cultural significance? In something else that has a following? It's not relevant what book or other medium it has been featured in but this idea is certainly OTRT

Is the connection that Tim and Sanders have related to an interest of theirs? A hobby? A sport? A film/TV show/stage production? A musician? Playing music? A book? No to these

Early on you said that the building (now known to be a KFC) is relevantly surrounded by other buildings. Are they more concerned with one of these buildings than with the KFC? Well I'd say equally concerned, to a certain degree, explore this Is it relevant what these buildings are? Yes

Can't remember if this has already been asked, but is it the original KFC? No
Is it a KFC in a famous place, like Disney World or something like that? It's not in a place like that but you're OTRT and the restaurant's location it very important
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:36 pm

May I invoke the LTPF list of American states?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Doriana » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:36 pm

Is the restaurant located within an airport?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:13 pm

May I invoke the LTPF list of American states? Sure, the restaurant is located in a suburb of Atlanta, GA

Is the restaurant located within an airport? Not within an airport but close to an airport
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby trebor » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:26 am

Is it a KFC that is nice and recognisable by anyone flying in? Does it mean something to people who’ve travelled to Atlanta?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:40 pm

Is it a KFC that is nice and recognisable by anyone flying in? YES, and not just anyone...(see next answer)
Does it mean something to people who’ve travelled to Atlanta? It means more to some than others, explore!
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Balin » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:41 pm

Is it the original KFC? The most popular?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:34 pm

Is it the original KFC? No The most popular? Tim and Sanders would say so
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Balin » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:52 pm

Is it the largest KFC?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:24 pm

Is it the largest KFC? I am not sure, but this isn't what is noteworthy about it. You are OTRT with one aspect of the restaurant.
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Mimino » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:10 pm

Are Tim and Sanders aircraft pilots? Did they use the chicken as landmark when approaching the airport?
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:14 pm

Are Tim and Sanders aircraft pilots? Sanders is, yes
Did they use the chicken as landmark when approaching the airport? Yes (for Sanders)

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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby Mimino » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:21 pm

Is then Tim using the chicken as landmark in some other way? (for giving directions? or while hiking?)
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:24 pm

Is then Tim using the chicken as landmark in some other way? (for giving directions? or while hiking?) Yes, and so are many, many other people besides Tim!
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:32 pm

***** SPOILER *****

The famous KFC "Big Chicken" restaurant, located in a suburb of Atlanta is famous for its almost 60 foot tall corrugated steel likeness of a chicken. People who live and work nearby use it as a point of reference and landmark (people say they can gauge how long it will take them to get to/from work or to/from home based on when they reach the KFC), and commercial airline pilots use it as a reference point when landing at Atlanta's airport. When the animatronic eyes were installed and activated, they vibrated which caused the windows of the restaurant to shatter. When there was talk of tearing down the building, local residents were saddened and vowed to save the Big Chicken. Changes and upgrades have been made over the years to allow the structure to stay, to the relief of pilots and local residents.

Here's a link to a related story with a pic of the chicken - https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/7021
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw [Repaired]

Postby biograd » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:21 am

That just goes to show how flat Atlanta is that people can see that chicken for miles. At least in those pictures it doesn't look that tall, in most major cities it would be nowhere even remotely near the skyline. I also didn't imagine it as being so stylized and incorporated into the building--I imagined it being something like this: https://pixels.com/featured/theres-a-bl ... andel.html
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Re: [CoffeeBean] A Stone's Throw [Repaired]

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:39 pm

Well it depends on where you are driving. The first time I went to see it I was about a mile away and wondered why I couldn't see it since it was supposed to be this huge structure. I was approaching on a road that dips downhill not too far from the building so it was hidden until I came up the hill. After hearing people from Atlanta talk about it I asked what it was and why it was so popular. They said that it's a major landmark, several TV and radio ads use it as a reference point for their own business ("We're located on Cobb Parkway, half a mile from the Big Chicken"), and most people who live and work within a few miles of it use it as a marker when giving directions (there used to be a water park nearby, and people would give directions to the park by saying "Turn right when you get to the Big Chicken...").
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