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[JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:17 am

Vic works for Kyle. For irrelevant reasons, Kyle decides to murder Vic. One day while Vic is on the job, Kyle whistles - and Vic dies. Explain.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby Earnest » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:32 am

Vic and Kyle = HAM?

So not relevant why he decided to murder Vic right?

whistles = a signal for someone else? Did Kyle kill Vic? If so with: knife? gun? by manipulating some tool/mechanism/engine? Electroshock? Drowning? poison? gas? strangulation? Did Kyle whistle to cover a noise? To witness that he was not taking part to the murder of Vic when it happened? Because he wanted to reproduce a noise? Was he whistling a song? Or maybe doing a "plain" whistle without any particular melody? Did Kyle relevantly worked in the control tower and Vic was a pilot? Communications relevant?
Did Vic heard Kyle whistling when dying?
Did Kyle whistles soon before Vic's death? Seconds before? Minutes? Hours? Days?

Was Vic the only one dying? Did Vic die directly because of Kyle whistling? Indirectly because of it?

Is Kyle and Vic job the same? If so relevant which one? A job at risk? Scientists?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:31 pm

Vic and Kyle = HAM? Yes to both.

So not relevant why he decided to murder Vic right? No.

whistles = a signal for someone else? Yes. Did Kyle kill Vic? Not in person. If so with: knife? gun? by manipulating some tool/mechanism/engine? For a sufficiently vague value. Electroshock? Drowning? poison? gas? strangulation? None of the others. Did Kyle whistle to cover a noise? No. To witness that he was not taking part to the murder of Vic when it happened? No. Because he wanted to reproduce a noise? No. Was he whistling a song? No. Or maybe doing a "plain" whistle without any particular melody? This. Did Kyle relevantly worked in the control tower and Vic was a pilot? No. Communications relevant? In the sense of a signal, yes.
Did Vic heard Kyle whistling when dying? No.
Did Kyle whistles soon before Vic's death? Seconds before? This. Minutes? Hours? Days?

Was Vic the only one dying? Yes. Did Vic die directly because of Kyle whistling? Indirectly because of it? This, but an argument can perhaps be made for directly.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby irishelk » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:17 pm

Was the whistle a signal for one other person? For a group? For an animal? Was the someone being signaled to aware of the murder plot? Were they physically near Vic? If so, were they aware of him?

Would the whistle usually indicate some kind of "all clear"? Was it an instruction to start machinery?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby Balin » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:42 pm

Was the whistle audible to the human ear? To Vic? To Kyle?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:43 pm

Was the whistle a signal for one other person? For a group? For an animal? This. Was the someone being signaled to aware of the murder plot? No. Were they physically near Vic? Yes. If so, were they aware of him? Irr.

Would the whistle usually indicate some kind of "all clear"? Was it an instruction to start machinery? No to both.

Was the whistle audible to the human ear? No. To Vic? To Kyle?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby wolfier » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:41 am

Is the setting a marine park? If so, is an orca involved?
Does Kyle know that Vic works for him?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby GalFisk » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:05 am

Did the animal, when it heard the whistle: move? Kill? Attack? Buck? Kick? Bite? Peck? Leave? Also die? Was the animal trained to respond to the whistle? If so, was it trained specifically for the murder? Is it a mammal? Bird? Reptile? Insect? Arachnid? Amphibian? Fish?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby Earnest » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:45 pm

Circus relevant? Was one of the two a tiger breeder?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:55 am

Is the setting a marine park? If so, is an orca involved? No to both.

Does the animal, when it heard the whistle: move? This. Kill? Attack? Buck? Kick? Bite? Peck? Leave? And this. Also die? None of the rest. Was the animal trained to respond to the whistle? Yes. If so, was it trained specifically for the murder? Irr. Is it a mammal? This. Bird? Reptile? Insect? Arachnid? Amphibian? Fish?

Does Kyle know that Vic works for him? Yes.

Circus relevant? Was one of the two a tiger breeder? No to both.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby WiZ » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:58 am

Is the animal a dog? Is it a police dog? Vic's service dog, which leaves Vic vulnerable in its absence?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:12 am

Is the animal a dog? Yes. Is it a police dog? Vic's service dog, which leaves Vic vulnerable in its absence? No to both, though I like the second one.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby GalFisk » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:58 pm

Did the dog, when leaving, cause a problem? Cause the death? Did the dog have a relevant job? Such as guarding? Sniffing? Searching?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:41 pm

Did the dog, when leaving, cause a problem? Cause the death? This. Did the dog have a relevant job? No. Such as guarding? Sniffing? Searching?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby Balin » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:49 pm

Is the dog a guide dog? Is Vic blind?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:40 pm

Is the dog a guide dog? Is Vic blind? No to both.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby GalFisk » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:17 pm

Death by: suffocation? Strangulation? Hanging? Drowning? Exposure? Thirst? Hunger? Cold? Heat? Fire? Explosion? Firearm? Weapon? Human action (apart from calling the dog away)? Shock? Fear? Blood loss? Organ damage? Disease? Infection? Impact? Fall? Crushing? Vehicle? Poison? Venom? Animal action (apart from the dog leaving)? Suicide? Overdose? Malfunction of a device?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:19 am

Death by: suffocation? Strangulation? Hanging? Drowning? Exposure? Thirst? Hunger? Cold? Heat? Fire? Explosion? Firearm? Weapon? Human action (apart from calling the dog away)? Shock? Fear? Blood loss? Organ damage? Disease? Infection? Impact? Fall? This. Crushing? Vehicle? Poison? Venom? Animal action (apart from the dog leaving)? Explore. Suicide? Overdose? Malfunction of a device?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby GalFisk » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:09 am

Is the dog leashed? To something? Is the fall a result of: tripping? Being pushed? Being startled? A collapse? Is it a fall from a height? Down stairs? Down a well? Does the dog leaving cause the fall? Make it certain to happen? Likely to happen? Does the victim: see the dog? Hear it? Hold it? Follow it? Chase it?Try to prevent it from leaving? From going somewhere?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:07 pm

Is the dog leashed? No. To something? Is the fall a result of: tripping? Being pushed? YMMV. Being startled? A collapse? Is it a fall from a height? This. Down stairs? Down a well? Does the dog leaving cause the fall? Yes. Make it certain to happen? Assume this. Likely to happen? Does the victim: see the dog? Hear it? Likely, but not necessarily. Hold it? Follow it? Chase it?Try to prevent it from leaving? From going somewhere? None of the others.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby biograd » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:17 pm

Was the dog preventing him from falling by being where it was before leaving? or does the dog pass somewhere along its path that causes the fall?

Could only a dog serve whatever purpose the dog was serving in this workplace? or could a person too, in some cases?(aside from the fact, of course, that a person is unlikely to be signaled to by whistling rather than being told verbally to do things, and that a person may understand the consequences and choose to disobey)
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:54 pm

Was the dog preventing him from falling by being where it was before leaving? or does the dog pass somewhere along its path that causes the fall? This.

Could only a dog serve whatever purpose the dog was serving in this workplace? or could a person too, in some cases?(aside from the fact, of course, that a person is unlikely to be signaled to by whistling rather than being told verbally to do things, and that a person may understand the consequences and choose to disobey) It would be possible for a human to have done as the dog did, yes.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby GalFisk » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:04 am

Does the dog run past the victim? Is there relevantly a dangerous area on the job? Is it a construction site? Industrial facility? Safety equipment relevant? Such as ropes? Railings? Harnesses? Does anything besides the victim fall? Such as a lift? Is the weight of the dog relevant? Size?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:03 am

Does the dog run past the victim? Yes. Is there relevantly a dangerous area on the job? Yes. Is it a construction site? Assume this if you wish. Industrial facility? Safety equipment relevant? Such as ropes? Railings? Harnesses? None are present. Does anything besides the victim fall? Yes. Such as a lift? No. Is the weight of the dog relevant? Size? To the extent that it's large enough for Kyle's purpose.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby GalFisk » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:08 am

Does the dog fall? An object? Multiple objects? A substance? Another human? Does the victim relevantly respond to the dog? Does the victim grab, step or lean on something that is too weak to support him?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:25 pm

Does the dog fall? No. An object? This. Multiple objects? A substance? Another human? No to the rest. Does the victim relevantly respond to the dog? No. Does the victim grab, step or lean on something that is too weak to support him? No.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby wolfier » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:35 am

Would the victim still fall if none of those other fallen objects were present?
Did these objects fall before the victim did, or after?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:49 pm

Would the victim still fall if none of those other fallen objects were present? No.
Did these objects fall before the victim did, or after? Neither.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:09 pm

Does the object fall on Vic? From under Vic? Does Vic die from trying to get aawy from the falling object? From being hit by it? Is the object bigger than Vic? Heavier?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:36 pm

Does the object fall on Vic? From under Vic? This. Does Vic die from trying to get away from the falling object? No. From being hit by it? No. Is the object bigger than Vic? Yes. Heavier? No.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby Mimino » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:03 pm

Was it Vic's dog? Kyle's?
Did Vic stand on the object that fell? was it a scaffold? a ladder? a plank?
Was the dog a counterweight of some sort? which made something tip over when he left the place?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] Whistle While You Work

Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:12 pm

Was it Vic's dog? Kyle's? This.
Did Vic stand on the object that fell? Yes. was it a scaffold? a ladder? Assume this. a plank?
Was the dog a counterweight of some sort? No. which made something tip over when he left the place? But yes.

Quite close to solution.
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