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[JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:18 am

An officer finds his soldiers eating an unexpected meal, and realizes the enemy is about to attack. Explain.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby Mimino » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:47 am

Were the soldiers not expected to eat at all? not at this time of the day? not this kind of food?
Was the meal: meat? fruits? vegetables? cereals? bread? cake? fish? seafood? mushrooms?
Was the soldiers' meal the cause of the enemy preparing to attack? (i.e. the enemy noticed they were eating and concluded that this would be a good time to attack)
Or was the meal the effect of the enemy's preparations? (i.e. the enemy's preparations made some food available for the soldiers they would not have otherwise)
Was the officer correct in his expectations that the enemy soon would attack?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby trebor » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:15 pm

Was the meal unexpected for the officer? The soldiers?

Relevant what conflict this is? Is it a real conflict? A simulation? Is it relevant where they are eating (mess hall, trench, etc.)? Are they on land?

Was there some sort of warning that was observable because they were eating? If so, was it visible? (Like the water rippling in the glass in Jurassic Park?)
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:57 pm

Were the soldiers not expected to eat at all? not at this time of the day? not this kind of food? There was nothing unusual about the meal or its timing.
Was the meal: meat? This. fruits? vegetables? cereals? bread? cake? fish? seafood? mushrooms?
Was the soldiers' meal the cause of the enemy preparing to attack? (i.e. the enemy noticed they were eating and concluded that this would be a good time to attack) No.
Or was the meal the effect of the enemy's preparations? (i.e. the enemy's preparations made some food available for the soldiers they would not have otherwise) Yes.
Was the officer correct in his expectations that the enemy soon would attack? Yes.

Was the meal unexpected for the officer? The soldiers? No to both.

Relevant what conflict this is? Mildly; assume WWII. Is it a real conflict? Yes. A simulation? Is it relevant where they are eating (mess hall, trench, etc.)? Assume a trench. Are they on land? Yes.

Was there some sort of warning that was observable because they were eating? If so, was it visible? (Like the water rippling in the glass in Jurassic Park?) No.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby trebor » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:09 pm

Was what they were eating unexpected? Drinking? Would the soldiers consider the meal better than normal? Worse? Relevant what meat it was? Relevant whether it had been recently killed?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:17 am

Was what they were eating unexpected? This. Drinking? Would the soldiers consider the meal better than normal? Depends on what else they'd been eating lately. Worse? Relevant what meat it was? Mildly. Relevant whether it had been recently killed? Yes, and it was.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby trebor » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:56 pm

Was it horse? Another pack animal? Dog? Pig? Chicken? Beef? Deer? Moose? Human? Seafood? Fish? Duck? Insects? Beyond Meat? (Kidding.)

Did it show that the enemy were nearby? Was it an animal that belonged to the enemy when it was alive? Had the soldiers killed it? Had someone in their camp? Had the animal escaped from the enemy?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:32 pm

Was it horse? Another pack animal? A camel, but any pack animal would suffice. Dog? Pig? Chicken? Beef? Deer? Moose? Human? Seafood? Fish? Duck? Insects? Beyond Meat? (Kidding.)

Did it show that the enemy were nearby? No. Was it an animal that belonged to the enemy when it was alive? Irr. Had the soldiers killed it? Yes. Had someone in their camp? Had the animal escaped from the enemy? No.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby trebor » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:04 pm

Did they think they were eating another meat, but it turned out it was just camelflage? Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

There was nothing unusual about the meal, but it was unexpected that they’d eat camel? Does that mean it was usual for them to eat camel? Is it this one in particular that’s somehow special? Had anything been strapped/attached/placed on the camel? Inside the camel? Are religious beliefs relevant? Did the camel show signs of [x], where x is the result of some military activity?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:23 pm

Ha ha.

There was nothing unusual about the meal, but it was unexpected that they’d eat camel? Does that mean it was usual for them to eat camel? Is it this one in particular that’s somehow special? Had anything been strapped/attached/placed on the camel? Inside the camel? Are religious beliefs relevant? Did the camel show signs of [x], where x is the result of some military activity? No to all.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby GalFisk » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:58 am

Did the soldiers eating the meal also understand that the enemy was about to attack? Did the camel belong to the enemy? Was it a wild camel? Relevant how it was killed? Was the animal present because of enemy preparations? Were they able to kill it because of enemy preparations?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby Sundowner » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:56 pm

Were there normally no camels in the reach of the soldiers? did the enemy's activities stir up the pack? did the camel(s) react to something? if so: noise? vibration? people? tanks? aircrafts?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:04 pm

Did the soldiers eating the meal also understand that the enemy was about to attack? No, but they should have. Did the camel belong to the enemy? Irr. Was it a wild camel? No. Relevant how it was killed? Assume the soldiers shot it. Was the animal present because of enemy preparations? Yes. Were they able to kill it because of enemy preparations? No.

Were there normally no camels in the reach of the soldiers? Irr. did the enemy's activities stir up the pack? No. did the camel(s) react to something? No. if so: noise? vibration? people? tanks? aircrafts?
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Postby Sundowner » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:07 pm

Did the soldiers get the camel from its owner? did they pay for it?
Were other people (besides the soldiers of two different armies) involved in this story?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:32 pm

Did the soldiers get the camel from its owner? No. did they pay for it? No.
Were other people (besides the soldiers of two different armies) involved in this story? No.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby Sundowner » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:59 pm

Did the soldiers set out hunting? and returned with a camel? or did they simply come across the camel in the vicinity of their trench? (did the camel fall in the trench?)
Had there always been camels in the vicinity? or did they show up only very recently? were they abandoned by their owner?
Did the availability of a camel for food indicate that the enemy is taking particular preparations for an attack? like: building roads? building a landing strip? moving trucks? people? horses? air traffic?
Type of attack relevant? tanks? artillery? cavalry? airborne?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:18 pm

Did the soldiers set out hunting? and returned with a camel? or did they simply come across the camel in the vicinity of their trench? This. (did the camel fall in the trench?) No.
Had there always been camels in the vicinity? or did they show up only very recently? This. were they abandoned by their owner? Assume yes.
Did the availability of a camel for food indicate that the enemy is taking particular preparations for an attack? Yes. like: building roads? For a sufficiently vague value of "road." building a landing strip? moving trucks? This. people? And this. horses? air traffic? None of the others.
Type of attack relevant? Assume infantry... tanks? ... and tanks. artillery? cavalry? airborne?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby Sundowner » Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:03 am

Did the owners of the camels (i.e. the local people) flee this place? because of the impending enemy attack? did they know of the attack? were they warned? by the enemy? were they evacuated?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:29 pm

Did the owners of the camels (i.e. the local people) flee this place? because of the impending enemy attack? did they know of the attack? were they warned? by the enemy? were they evacuated? All irrelevant.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby GalFisk » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:20 pm

So we can assume a civilian owned the camel and abandoned it, correct? Willingly? Out of fear? Patriotism? Being forced to? Not needing it anymore? Not being able to bring it with him/her? Because it could not be transported? Could not walk/run fast enough? Did the enemy relevantly interact with the camel owner?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:20 pm

So we can assume a civilian owned the camel and abandoned it, correct? Yes. Willingly? Out of fear? Patriotism? Being forced to? Not needing it anymore? Not being able to bring it with him/her? Because it could not be transported? Could not walk/run fast enough? Did the enemy relevantly interact with the camel owner? No. All else irrelevant.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby GalFisk » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:19 am

Was it the abandonment of the camel by the civilian that led to it being where it was? Was it something that happened later? Relevant where it was abandoned? Was it in a building? A fenced-in area? Did the enemy break a fence? Remove barbed wire? Remove or change some other barrier?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:11 pm

Was it the abandonment of the camel by the civilian that led to it being where it was? Was it something that happened later? Relevant where it was abandoned? No to all. Was it in a building? A fenced-in area? Did the enemy break a fence? Irr to all. Remove barbed wire? Irr. Remove or change some other barrier? Yes.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby trebor » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:12 pm

Did the enemy remove a barrier that had been keeping the camel in place? Did they remove something that had been attached to the camel?

Is more than one camel relevant?

Did the officer know that there were camels in the area? And then realising that they had moved/were able to be hunted was what alerted him to the danger?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:19 pm

Did the enemy remove a barrier that had been keeping the camel in place? Did they remove something that had been attached to the camel? No to both.

Is more than one camel relevant? No.

Did the officer know that there were camels in the area? Irr. And then realising that they had moved/were able to be hunted was what alerted him to the danger? Yes.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby Sundowner » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:24 pm

Did the enemy remove or alter something that was a natural barrier for the camels? like: a hill? a dune? a river? a lake? Did the camel go the "road of svv of a road"?
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Postby JenBurdoo » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:38 pm

Did the enemy remove or alter something that was a natural barrier for the camels? No. like: a hill? a dune? a river? a lake? None of these. Did the camel go the "road of svv of a road"? Yes.
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby Sundowner » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:42 pm

Was the "road" intended to be used during the attack? or rather, to bring in material?
Did this happen in a desert? in a forest? in a swamp? in grassland?
Were the enemy's activities invisible for the soldiers?
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Re: [JenBurdoo] The Line of Fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:43 pm

Was the "road" intended to be used during the attack? This. or rather, to bring in material?
Did this happen in a desert? This. in a forest? in a swamp? in grassland?
Were the enemy's activities invisible for the soldiers? Yes, although....
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