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[WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:37 pm

A deaf teenage boy is creating a picture. Although his eyes never leave the artwork, he suddenly stops halfway through and runs for his life. Why?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby Zanreo » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:46 pm

Another sense relevant?
Did he feel movement in the room/building? Smell something?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:50 pm

Another sense relevant? no (assuming you mean other than those already invoked by the puzzle question)
Did he feel movement in the room/building? Smell something? no to both
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:55 pm

Did he have a sudden realization?
See something in a peripheral area?
If he'd been doing anything else that required focus (like reading) would he have acted the same?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:05 am

Did he have a sudden realization? yes
See something in a peripheral area? no
If he'd been doing anything else that required focus (like reading) would he have acted the same? no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:18 am

Is he right to run for his life? Was he actually in danger? From an accident? From a person with bad intentions? Other?
Creating a picture - was he drawing? painting? Was he using a computer to create this artwork? Using other objects? Eg. sand/pebbles/grass/papier maché?
Was he creating this art from memory? Or was he referring to something as he created it? Did he have a model? Objects propped up in front of him? A still life? A photograph?
Was the sudden realisation triggered by his drawing something? Something that was odd? Something that shouldn't be there?
Was he doing this artwork for himself? To sell? For leisure? Had he been told to do it by someone else? Is he alone in the room?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:35 am

Is he right to run for his life? It was a reaction one might expect him to have, although he was probably too late Was he actually in danger? yes From an accident? no From a person yes with bad intentions? no Other? yes, in a way you can probably intuit from previous responses
Creating a picture - was he drawing? not really - DOYD/level of pedantry painting? no Was he using a computer to create this artwork? no Using other objects? Eg. sand/pebbles/grass/papier maché? yes, he was using a relevant medium
Was he creating this art from memory? yes Or was he referring to something as he created it? no Did he have a model? no (you may find this question amusing in retrospect) Objects propped up in front of him? no A still life? no A photograph? no
Was the sudden realisation triggered by his drawing something? yes Something that was odd? 'oddness' is irrelevant Something that shouldn't be there? very much so
Was he doing this artwork for himself? yes To sell? no For leisure? yes Had he been told to do it by someone else? Quite possibly, but irrelevant Is he alone in the room? No!/FA
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby Zanreo » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:37 am

Did what he was drawing remind him of something?
Someone else in the room: One person? More? Someone he knew? Someone dangerous? An animal?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:38 am

Did what he was drawing remind him of something? no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby Zanreo » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:38 am

(reposting these since I just edited them in)
Someone else in the room: One person? More? Someone he knew? Someone dangerous? An animal?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:40 am

Someone else in the room FA: One person? One relevant person More? Someone he knew? Yes Someone dangerous? Yes, to him An animal? no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:08 am

Is he using paint? A pencil? Sand? Paper?
A knife?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:08 am

Is he using paint? A pencil? Sand? Paper?
A knife?

no to all
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby peter365 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:26 am

Is he outdoors? Does Vincent include the person in his drawing? I'm going to assume the other person is a man but will stand corrected? He means Vincent no harm but his presence puts him in great danger? Or Is his presence a sign that some danger is approaching? Is there a war on? a plague? some impending natural disaster? Is he there to help?

Does Vincent know the man? Is his profession relevant ? Is he acting in some sort of official capacity? Is he in uniform ?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby GalFisk » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:15 am

Would a person who could hear have fled earlier?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:54 pm

Is he in danger from another human? Or from himself?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:03 pm

In a lot of murder mystery novels, you get witnesses who notice something significant, but don't realise that it is significant until later (or never realise it at all). Is this relevant to this puzzle? Was the boy creating a picture of a scene that he had witnessed at an earlier time? Did this scene include the person he is in danger from? Does he draw something about this person from memory, draws a specific detail without thinking, then realises what he's drawn and what it means?
While making the picture, is he aware that this person is in the same place as him? Does he flee because he realises the person is there? Or, does he flee because he suddenly realises that that person is dangerous to him?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:41 pm

Peter365

Is he outdoors? yes Does Vincent as he shall henceforth be known include the person in his drawing? no I'm going to assume the other person is a man correct (scenario is possible but less likely if the other person was a woman) but will stand corrected? He means Vincent no harm no physical or malicious harm but his presence puts him in great danger? yes Or Is his presence a sign that some danger is approaching? no Is there a war on? a plague? some impending natural disaster? no to these Is he there to help? yes, broadly speaking

Does Vincent know the man? yes Is his profession relevant ? yes Is he acting in some sort of official capacity? yes Is he in uniform ? no

Galfisk

Would a person who could hear have fled earlier? no

CoffeeBean

Is he in danger from another human? yes, in the immediate sense Or from himself? no

JumpingJacks

In a lot of murder mystery novels, you get witnesses who notice something significant, but don't realise that it is significant until later (or never realise it at all). Is this relevant to this puzzle? no Was the boy creating a picture of a scene that he had witnessed at an earlier time? no Did this scene include the person he is in danger from? no Does he draw something about this person from memory, draws a specific detail without thinking, then realises what he's drawn and what it means? no
While making the picture, is he aware that this person is in the same place as him? yes (during the course of the puzzle) Does he flee because he realises the person is there? Yes! Or, does he flee because he suddenly realises that that person is dangerous to him? no

A most astute round of questions from you all - well done!
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby Balin » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:59 pm

Is the subject of the picture relevant at all?
Had Vincent seen the man before?
Is it relevant how long the boy has been deaf? Was he born deaf? Was the man involved in his becoming deaf?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:19 pm

Can we call the well-intentioned but dangerous man Tom?
So Tom's presence is a danger to Vincent, but Tom means Vincent no physical or malicious harm, correct? If Vincent were to stay where he was, would he die? Would he be murdered? By Tom? By someone else other than Tom? Someone else who is also there?
Is it dangerous to be seen with Tom? Is Tom a sign language interpreter?
Is the medium he is using a common one? Something you could purchase in an art store? Is he using an easel? Canvas?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:14 pm

Balin

Is the subject of the picture relevant at all? yes
Had Vincent seen the man before? yes
Is it relevant how long the boy has been deaf? no Was he born deaf? n/a Was the man involved in his becoming deaf? no

JumpingJacks

Can we call the well-intentioned but dangerous man Tom? certainly
So Tom's presence is a danger to Vincent, but Tom means Vincent no physical or malicious harm, correct? Correct If Vincent were to stay where he was, would he die? no Would he be murdered? By Tom? By someone else other than Tom? Someone else who is also there? n/a to rest
Is it dangerous to be seen with Tom? no Is Tom a sign language interpreter? no
Is the medium he is using a common one? it's commonly found, but an uncommon art medium Something you could purchase in an art store? no Is he using an easel? Canvas? no to both
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:45 pm

Is he using items found outdoors to make the picture? Is it charcoal? A natural item? Or a processed/manufactured product?
Is Tom danger-prone? Being chased by someone? Is he hunting something?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:53 pm

Is he using items found outdoors to make the picture? yes Is it charcoal? no A natural item? yes Or a processed/manufactured product? this isn't the medium - although a manufactured product plays a part in the creation of the picture
Is Tom danger-prone? no Being chased by someone? no Is he hunting something? no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:10 pm

Is he using part of a plant? Part of an animal? A rock? Soil?

Is Tom a scientist? Bird-watcher?
Does his job compel him to be outside? His hobby?

Is the location relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:25 pm

Is he using part of a plant? Part of an animal? A rock? Soil? no to all

Is Tom a scientist? Bird-watcher? no to both
Does his job compel him to be outside? no His hobby? no

Is the location relevant? yes
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby peter365 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:52 am

Is he drawing in sand by any chance? Is he on a beach?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:16 pm

Is he drawing in sand by any chance? Is he on a beach? no to both, but you're thinking along the right lines
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:37 am

Peeing in snow?
Drawing in dirt?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:44 am

Peeing in snow? no - this is the closest thus far
Drawing in dirt? no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby Zanreo » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:53 am

Using some kind of liquid on snow? On something else?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:24 am

Peeing on something?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:41 am

Zanreo

Using some kind of liquid no on snow? no, but something very similar. On something else? yes

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Peeing on something? no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:29 am

Hey, is he doing something while standing on ice? And he sees the other guy's reflection and runs because he's afraid that their combined weight will break the ice?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:46 am

Hey, is he doing something while standing on ice? And he sees the other guy's reflection and runs because he's afraid that their combined weight will break the ice? Good, lateral thought, but no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:30 am

Was he making a picture on a horizontal surface? Or vertical? Or diagonal?
Was he using a tool?
Was he near snow? Ice?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby peter365 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:40 am

It's not skywriting is it?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby jumpingjacks » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:16 pm

Is Tom a police officer? Is the danger that Vincent is in the danger of being arrested? Is Vincent doing graffiti? Is the subject of his art a penis? (just because you said I would find the question about the model amusing...)
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:38 pm

CoffeeBean

Was he making a picture on a horizontal surface? no Or vertical? no Or diagonal? yes - good question
Was he using a tool? no
Was he near snow? no Ice? yes!

Peter

It's not skywriting is it? it is not

JumpingJacks

Is Tom a police officer? no Is the danger that Vincent is in the danger of being arrested? no - but ORT Is Vincent doing graffiti? yope to yesish - DOYD Is the subject of his art a penis? yes! (just because you said I would find the question about the model amusing...) Well-reasoned.
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:55 pm

Is he drawing a penis with ice skates? Is he on private property? Is he trespassing on Tom's land? (Tom's ice, I suppose)
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:03 pm

Is he drawing a penis with ice skates? A penis that can ice skate? That's a clever dick. Sorry. No, to answer your question. Is he on private property? no Is he trespassing on Tom's land? (Tom's ice, I suppose) no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby peter365 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:44 am

Is he cutting a penis shaped hole in the ice? (another entry to my list of questions I never thought I'd ask :D)
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby rcb » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:25 pm

Was Vincent painting using his hands? His feet? Is a relevant tool involved?

By his drawing of a penis, was he defacing a monument (natural or otherwise)? Insult public feelings?

You said the ice was diagonal ... does this mean a plane tilted towards him? Outwards? Relevant?

And by the way, with the host's permission, hello to all the puzzlers here (some new and some old faces), it's good to be back after so many years, albeit under a different user id.
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:00 pm

Hey Rcb what was your former forum ID?

Is the relevant ice naturally occurring, or allowed to form by artificial means?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:14 pm

Peter

Is he cutting a penis shaped hole in the ice? (another entry to my list of questions I never thought I'd ask :D) he is not - although this is conceptually fairly close

RCB

Was Vincent painting using his hands? yes His feet? no Is a relevant tool involved? no (other than the one he's drawing)

By his drawing of a penis, was he defacing a monument (natural or otherwise)? no Insult public feelings? He does draw it as an insult, but not to 'the public' in general (although he understands that it will probably offend a few people)

You said the ice was diagonal ... does this mean a plane tilted towards him? Outwards? this, if I understand your question Relevant? it could be, in identifying what he's 'drawing' on

And by the way, with the host's permission, hello to all the puzzlers here (some new and some old faces), it's good to be back after so many years, albeit under a different user id. Hello, and welcome back!

CoffeeBean

Is the relevant ice naturally occurring yes, or allowed to form by artificial means? no
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:05 am

Ice on a roof? Road? Mountain?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:52 am

Ice on a roof? this is the closest of the three Road? Mountain? no to all
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:08 am

A windshield? Hood of a car?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:22 am

A windshield? Yes! Hood of a car?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:29 am

Was he using an ice scraper to carve a p**** on someone's iced-up windshield, then saw that the person was in the car?
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent

Postby WiZ » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:49 am

Was he using an ice scraper to carve a p**** on someone's iced-up windshield, then saw that the person was in the car? PrecICEly!

***** SPOILER *****

As a prank/act of defiance, Vincent, a high school student, drew an obscene image with his finger in the frost on the windscreen of his Principal's car. As he cleared the ice away in the course of his masterpiece, he chanced to see his Principal sitting in the driver's seat!


Based on a true story, my role in which shall remain secret. Well done CoffeeBean, and good questions from all who took part.
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent [SOLVED]

Postby CoffeeBean » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:59 am

Vincent Van Gogh?

Good puzzle! Real life is always funny!
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent [SOLVED]

Postby peter365 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:13 am

Brilliant puzzle
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent [SOLVED]

Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:38 am

Hahahaha! Did you really?!? That's hilarious!!
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Re: [WiZ] Vincent [SOLVED]

Postby Balin » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:16 am

That's hilarious! Great puzzle!
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