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[Hobbsicle] Thx mom, c u l8r

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:06 am
by Hobbsicle
A young man flies in to visit his parents for a few days. At the end of his stay, his mom asks him to text her when he makes it back home, which he does as soon as he lands. The flight back was uneventful and on time, there was no notable worry or danger of any incident, and the message is short and not particularly creative. Yet his mom considers it the most significant text she's ever received. Why?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:47 am
by GalFisk
Does the text bring significant: relief? Information? Happiness? Is the exact content of the message relevant? Or could it have been something like "Hi mom, I'm safely home. Love, your son" Would it have worked if he had sent it by some other route? Such as Whatsapp or Facebook messenger? Relevant that he flew? Is it significant just to her? Did the mom ever relevantly fear that he would not make it home? Not send a message even if he did? Is it significant because it's the first text message she's ever received? Because it reveals something? Reveals the son's phone number? Is it sent using the son's phone? Relevant? Is the significance apparent to her upon reception? Reading? Later? Is the message used as evidence for something? Is she accused of something, but the message exonerates her?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:06 pm
by klondike mary
Does she misunderstand something in the message? Did he misunderstand something in her request?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:18 am
by Hobbsicle
Galfisk

Does the text bring significant: relief? Somewhat Information? No Happiness? Yope Is the exact content of the message relevant? Not exact, no Or could it have been something like "Hi mom, I'm safely home. Love, your son" Yes, that would work Would it have worked if he had sent it by some other route? Such as Whatsapp or Facebook messenger? It's possible, maybe, but less likely Relevant that he flew? Not especially Is it significant just to her? Especially her, but others as well Did the mom ever relevantly fear that he would not make it home? Not more than your average mom Not send a message even if he did? Not exactly, but somewhat OTRT Is it significant because it's the first text message she's ever received? No Because it reveals something? Sort of Reveals the son's phone number? No Is it sent using the son's phone? Yes Relevant? It makes most sense. Theoretically, it would work with someone else's. Is the significance apparent to her upon reception? No-ish Reading? Yes Later? Is the message used as evidence for something? No Is she accused of something, but the message exonerates her? No

klondike mary

Does she misunderstand something in the message? No...ish Did he misunderstand something in her request? No

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:53 am
by GalFisk
Relevant where he lives? Where she lives? Phone reception relevant? Politics? Censorship? Did the message have some special meaning apart from the literal content and as a sign that the son got home safely?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:22 am
by Earnest
To be sure: did he take the flight back? I was thinking that he did not and said to his mum that he was back home meaning her house. Can we also assume that the flight was a normal route regularly travelled by the son?

Can we assume that she had just that son and that it was not the first time that he flies home and back? Was it the first time he texted her on the fly back? Relevant when he made the message? As soon as he landed? Did she receive misleading information on media (e.g. an airplane that crashed or a negative event that has happened and that could involve him? A virus? Closing of flights? Others?)? Did something negative happen without that the son knew it (e.g. because he was flying back)? A natural event? An explosion? a war? something involving the nation where his parents (or at least his mom) lives? Others? Was it important that the son was back? Did he have something important to do?

Did the song know that such a message would have been considered the most significant text that his mum received? Were the two (mum and son) in a good relationship? Would it have worked had he send the message to his dad (was his dad alive?)?
Would his dad have considered the message the most significant text that he received? Relevant where she was when she received the message? What she was doing? Relevant the son's age? Was it the first message that her son wrote to her? Did the text contain mistakes? Relevant the language used to send the message? Can we assume English?

Yet his mom considers it the most significant text she's ever received. --> relevant which kind of messages she received until that moment on the phone? average messages? Also love messages? Other significant messages (e.g. important communications)? Did the message made her understand that: the son was safe? The son avoided a potential danger? the son would have done something? The son would have delivered an object? The son made it to successfully pass the checks?

WAG --> Criminal activities involved? The son was a trafficker of drugs. When he send the message he basically said to his mum that he made it to overcome the safety checks.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:57 pm
by Hobbsicle
Galfisk

Relevant where he lives? Not really Where she lives? No Phone reception relevant? It might be somewhat involved, but not directly relevant Politics? Censorship? No to both Did the message have some special meaning apart from the literal content and as a sign that the son got home safely? Yes-ish

earnest

To be sure: did he take the flight back? Yes I was thinking that he did not and said to his mum that he was back home meaning her house. No Can we also assume that the flight was a normal route regularly travelled by the son? Yes

Can we assume that she had just that son and that it was not the first time that he flies home and back? Sure Was it the first time he texted her on the fly back? Assume yes Relevant when he made the message? Not particularly As soon as he landed? Assume so Did she receive misleading information on media (e.g. an airplane that crashed or a negative event that has happened and that could involve him? A virus? Closing of flights? Others?)? No Did something negative happen without that the son knew it (e.g. because he was flying back)? A natural event? An explosion? a war? something involving the nation where his parents (or at least his mom) lives? Others? Nothing relevant happened while he was on the plane Was it important that the son was back? Sure, but not unusually so Did he have something important to do? Hm, maybe at some point

Did the song know that such a message would have been considered the most significant text that his mum received? No Were the two (mum and son) in a good relationship? Yes Would it have worked had he send the message to his dad (was his dad alive?)? Yes
Would his dad have considered the message the most significant text that he received? Probably, yes Relevant where she was when she received the message? Yes What she was doing? Yes Relevant the son's age? No Was it the first message that her son wrote to her? Assume no Did the text contain mistakes? No Relevant the language used to send the message? No Can we assume English? Yes

Yet his mom considers it the most significant text she's ever received. --> relevant which kind of messages she received until that moment on the phone? No average messages? Assume so Also love messages? Possibly Other significant messages (e.g. important communications)? Maybe Did the message made her understand that: the son was safe? Hm, yope The son avoided a potential danger? No the son would have done something? No-ish The son would have delivered an object? No The son made it to successfully pass the checks? No

WAG --> Criminal activities involved? The son was a trafficker of drugs. When he send the message he basically said to his mum that he made it to overcome the safety checks. No

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:47 pm
by trebor
Is it the text tone that’s important? Did it alert her to the location of the phone? Scare off somebody/something that was going to harm her? If she had received a text from someone else at that moment instead would the result have been the same? Is her profession important? Is his? Was her life in danger? Was his? Did she, at the time of receiving the text, know it was the most important one she’d ever received?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:53 pm
by gregoryuconn
Relevant why he was visiting? For a holiday? Another happy occasion? A funeral? Some other sad occasion? Because he was doing something else near their home and figured he'd visit while he was there? Could he have texted her on previous visits if he wanted to? If so, would the message have been the same? Did something relevantly change about the son between the last visit and the current one? The mom? Someone else? Did the son send any other relevant texts to the mom at any point? To someone else?

WAG: Did he try to text hi to his friend Jack shortly before he boarded the plane but texted the mom instead then put the phone into airplane mode?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:35 am
by Earnest
little WAG: Yet his mom considers it the most significant text she's ever received. --> ok this sentence took me back to the attack of 2001 against Twin Towers. In particular everyone remember what he/she was doing when he/she hear that news. I was wondering whether something similar happened to the mum: i.e. she was attending a particularly relevant event and remembered everything about that moment.

Had she received an insignificant message from someone else in that moment, would she have considered it as the most significant text she's ever received?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:08 am
by Hobbsicle
trebor

Is it the text tone that’s important? No, assume suitably warm Did it alert her to the location of the phone? No Scare off somebody/something that was going to harm her? No If she had received a text from someone else at that moment instead would the result have been the same? No Is her profession important? No Is his? Technically no, but it could help Was her life in danger? No Was his? No-ish Did she, at the time of receiving the text, know it was the most important one she’d ever received? Yes

gregoryuconn

Relevant why he was visiting? No, assume something like vacation or holiday For a holiday? Another happy occasion? A funeral? Some other sad occasion? Because he was doing something else near their home and figured he'd visit while he was there? irrel to rest Could he have texted her on previous visits if he wanted to? Yes If so, would the message have been the same? Possibly, yes Did something relevantly change about the son between the last visit and the current one? No The mom? No Someone else? No Did the son send any other relevant texts to the mom at any point? No To someone else? No

WAG: Did he try to text hi to his friend Jack shortly before he boarded the plane but texted the mom instead then put the phone into airplane mode? No

earnest

little WAG: Yet his mom considers it the most significant text she's ever received. --> ok this sentence took me back to the attack of 2001 against Twin Towers. In particular everyone remember what he/she was doing when he/she hear that news. I was wondering whether something similar happened to the mum: i.e. she was attending a particularly relevant event and remembered everything about that moment. I like the idea, it's not quite right, but she was attending a particularly relevant event

Had she received an insignificant message from someone else in that moment, would she have considered it as the most significant text she's ever received? No

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:58 am
by Alhucema
Did the text reveal something relevant about the son? (E.g. he was blind before, had an successful operation, and the fact he texted his mum meant that he regained his eyesight)?

Was the message so important:

- because of some encoded meaning
- because of the situation of the mum (was she in a hospital?)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:10 am
by Hobbsicle
Did the text reveal something relevant about the son? Sort of (E.g. he was blind before, had an successful operation, and the fact he texted his mum meant that he regained his eyesight)? But nothing like this

Was the message so important:

- because of some encoded meaning There was something of an additional meaning, but I wouldn't say "encoded"
- because of the situation of the mum (was she in a hospital?) It is related to the situation the mom is in, but she is not in the hospital

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:24 am
by Earnest
relevant the mum's work? Did she work on airplanes (e.g. hostess on that same plane? On another one?)? In police?

Was she doing an every day activity? Did she receive the result of a test? An answer? Was she doing something with her phone? Checking emails/messages? Did she suddenly hear the phone vibrating/ringing? Did she expect so? Did she receive the message at lunchtime? Afternoon? Evening? Night? Relevant? Was she sleeping? Was she watching tv? Working? Eating? Buying something? About to do something? Bets relevant?

Did she want to receive a message in that particular day? In that particular moment? Did she expect to receive the message at that time? Assuming she took him to the airport and knew when the airplane took off and the time it takes for the place to land at its destination, did she expect a message at that exact time? Would she have k own otherwise when the son landed (e.g. with a phone App)? Did the son fly with someone relevant (e.g. the pregnant wife)? Had she received any other message in that same time, would she have considered it the most significant message of her life?Had she received a message from someone else (or the same exact message) in that same time, would she have considered it the most significant message of her life? Relevant?

The flight back was uneventful --> is the fact that it was uneventful an event in itself? (i.e. they expected something to happen)?

Was the mum victim of a robbery? Victim of a crime? E.g. her phone with very important mails/files had been stolen or she lost it. She received the message from her son and that allowed her to recover it somehow (e.g. someone found it and recognized that it was her phone because of the message).
Was the mum in danger? Did the message allow someone to help her?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:31 am
by GalFisk
If he had called her instead, would it have been the most siginficant call she'd received? Did the text wake her up? Is there relevant risk? Danger? A relevant life or death situation? Is she in at very significant situation in life, and the text changed the outcome of the situation?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:50 pm
by Hobbsicle
earnest

relevant the mum's work? No Did she work on airplanes (e.g. hostess on that same plane? On another one?)? In police?

Was she doing an every day activity? No Did she receive the result of a test? No An answer? No Was she doing something with her phone? No Checking emails/messages? Did she suddenly hear the phone vibrating/ringing? Assume so, but not particularly relevant Did she expect so? No Did she receive the message at lunchtime? Afternoon? Evening? Night? Relevant? Assume daytime generally, wouldn't be night, probably Was she sleeping? No Was she watching tv? No Working? No Eating? No Buying something? No About to do something? Not relevantly Bets relevant? No

Did she want to receive a message in that particular day? No... In that particular moment? No Did she expect to receive the message at that time? NO Assuming she took him to the airport and knew when the airplane took off and the time it takes for the place to land at its destination, did she expect a message at that exact time? Yes, but... Would she have k own otherwise when the son landed (e.g. with a phone App)? No Did the son fly with someone relevant (e.g. the pregnant wife)? No Had she received any other message in that same time, would she have considered it the most significant message of her life? No Had she received a message from someone else (or the same exact message) in that same time, would she have considered it the most significant message of her life? No Relevant? It is relevantly from her son, and relevantly the message that he sends

The flight back was uneventful --> is the fact that it was uneventful an event in itself? (i.e. they expected something to happen)? No

Was the mum victim of a robbery? No Victim of a crime? No E.g. her phone with very important mails/files had been stolen or she lost it. She received the message from her son and that allowed her to recover it somehow (e.g. someone found it and recognized that it was her phone because of the message). Not this
Was the mum in danger? No Did the message allow someone to help her? No

GalFisk

If he had called her instead, would it have been the most siginficant call she'd received? Under certain circumstances, maybe, but more unlikely, I think Did the text wake her up? No Is there relevant risk? Danger? No A relevant life or death situation? In one sense Is she in at very significant situation in life, and the text changed the outcome of the situation? Not exactly the outcome, but it did change her perception of it, in a way

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:15 am
by Earnest
Was she thinking about suicide but received the message and remember that her act would have been selfish in that she had a son? Or something like: she was thinking that nobody believed in her or loved her but then received the message from her son and had instead the revealing that someone loves her and cared about her?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:52 am
by GalFisk
Time between receiving and reading the message relevant? Was it received right after it was sent? Cell reception relevant? Was the mother in an unusual situation? Unsetting? Scary? Important? Did she think the son might not get home safely? Relevant how the phone indicated reception of the text?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:04 am
by Hobbsicle
earnest

Was she thinking about suicide but received the message and remember that her act would have been selfish in that she had a son? Or something like: she was thinking that nobody believed in her or loved her but then received the message from her son and had instead the revealing that someone loves her and cared about her? No to both

Galfisk

Time between receiving and reading the message relevant? No Was it received right after it was sent? NO Cell reception relevant? It may have been involved, but exact cause unknown and irrel Was the mother in an unusual situation? Not exactly unusual, but not everyday Unsetting? I'd say so Scary? No Important? Yes, DOYD somewhat Did she think the son might not get home safely? Hard to answer...when? Relevant how the phone indicated reception of the text? No

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:52 pm
by Alhucema
Was she his biological mother? Was the word "mom" the most important part of the message?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:01 am
by trebor
Did the son die between sending the text and his mom receiving it? Perhaps she had just attended his burial when she got a message from him saying he got home safe, which she interpreted as a sign from above?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:56 pm
by Hobbsicle
Alhucema

Was she his biological mother? Yes Was the word "mom" the most important part of the message? Not really

trebor

Did the son die between sending the text and his mom receiving it? Perhaps she had just attended his burial when she got a message from him saying he got home safe, which she interpreted as a sign from above? All of that

*******************SPOILER*******************

This is the true story of Michael Murphy, U.S. Navy Seal. He visited his family before flying back to his base in Hawaii. Although he texted his mom as soon as he landed, the text didn't go through due to some technical glitch. They were worried, but called him two days later and he was fine, and insisted he sent the text. Only three months later, however, he is sent on a dangerous mission in Afghanistan and died trying to save his fellow soldiers. He was given a posthumous medal of honor for his bravery. The body is brought back to the grieving family, and the funeral is held. Just after the burial, as they are walking back to the car, Michael's mom receives a text message. It is from her son. It reads, "Momma, home safe and sound."


Good solve, trebor, and thanks to all for the good questions.

Re: [Hobbsicle] Thx mom, c u l8r (HOME SAFE)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:49 pm
by Balin
That's utterly heart-wrenching.

Fantastic puzzle.