[WiZ] FAWM is over

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[WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby WiZ » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:05 pm

Adam, who does not wear glasses, is asking questions to Bryant, who does. Bryant is carefully paraphrasing Adam's questions before giving the answer. Adam is very annoyed but also a little impressed.

What is going on?


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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby trebor » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:54 am

Is “asking questions to” the same as “asking questions of”? Is Adam a HAM? Is Bryant? Is Adam’s profession relevant? Is Bryant’s? Does Bryant have autism? Or another condition that makes him neuro-divergent?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby WiZ » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:33 am

Is “asking questions to” the same as “asking questions of”? yes, or 'asking Bryant questions', or 'posing questions to Bryant' Is Adam a HAM? Is Bryant? yes to both Is Adam’s profession relevant? Somewhat Is Bryant’s? noish Does Bryant have autism? Or another condition that makes him neuro-divergent? assume no to both
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby peter365 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:47 am

Do both men have the same first language ? Does Bryant do anything relevant with his glasses when this is going on? Are they perspription glasses? Is he near or far sighted? Are they sunglasses?

Does Bryant's paraphrasing go along the lines of 'so what you're asking me is......' ? Does he actually answer the questions that Adam asks?

Is this an interview? A quiz?

Is there anything physicaly unusual about either man?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby Earnest » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:40 am

is asking questions --> about a specific topic? asking yes/no questions? a quiz question? an interrogation? Did he expect B to answer quickly? Questions about: B himself? An event? something B did? General topics? Sport?

wearing glasses = is B blind? Is B faking to be blind? Is B afraid? under pressure? Happy? Calm? Did he want to distract A? Reflection on glasses relevant (e.g. A was asking questions about a crime/criminal activity. B was temporizing in order to allow his accomplice to run away. But A saw the accomplice escaping from the reflection of the glasses)? Was there a reason why A was not wearing glasses while B did? Sunlight? He did not see very well? he did not want to be recognized? he wanted to cover his face? he wanted to imitate someone/mask? He was trying different types of glasses in a shop? He saw a 3D movie? Did the glasses belong to B?

Were the two in outside? in a street? inside a building? in a dark room? in a room? in a park? in a public place? relevant?playing a sport?

Is poker relevant? Relevant that one wears glasses and the other not? Can we assume sunglasses? Was there a light or something that prevented A to see? Is B taking time? Did he have an answer tot he question? Relevant their relationship? Colleagues? Client and seller? Teacher and student? Friends? Referee and player? Police and criminal? Other?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby WiZ » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:38 pm

Peter

Do both men have the same first language ? yes Does Bryant do anything relevant with his glasses when this is going on? no Are they perspription glasses? yes Is he near or far sighted? far-sighted Are they sunglasses? no

Does Bryant's paraphrasing go along the lines of 'so what you're asking me is......' ? this is the right framing, but he probably wouldn't use as many words Does he actually answer the questions that Adam asks? yes

Is this an interview? yes! A quiz? no

Is there anything physicaly unusual about either man? no

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is asking questions --> about a specific topic? yes asking yes/no questions? no a quiz question? noish an interrogation? noish Did he expect B to answer quickly? yesish Questions about: B himself? yope An event? no something B did? yesish General topics? Sport? no to both

wearing glasses = is B blind? no Is B faking to be blind? no Is B afraid? perhaps under pressure? yes Happy? no Calm? no Did he want to distract A? no Reflection on glasses relevant yes (e.g. A was asking questions about a crime/criminal activity. B was temporizing in order to allow his accomplice to run away. But A saw the accomplice escaping from the reflection of the glasses)? but not this Was there a reason why A was not wearing glasses whil B did? no (outside of A having good eyesight and B not) Sunlight? no He did not see very well? yes he did not want to be recognized? no he wanted to cover his face? no he wanted to imitate someone/mask? no He was trying different types of glasses in a shop? no He saw a 3D movie? no Did the glasses belong to B? yes
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Were the two in outside? in a street? no to both inside a building? yes, FA lurking in a dark room? no in a room? Yes, FA lurking in a park? in a public place? no to rest relevant? for context playing a sport? no

Is poker relevant? no Relevant that one wears glasses yes and the other not? no Can we assume sunglasses? no Was there a light or something that prevented A to see? no Is B taking time? yes Did he have an answer tot he question? at what stage? Relevant their relationship? yes Colleagues? noish Client and seller? Teacher and student? Friends? Referee and player? Police and criminal? no to rest Other? yes
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby GalFisk » Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:43 am

Do the glasses do anything relevant apart from correcting farsightedness? Would the puzzle work if he wore contacts? Wore no glasses, but was farsighted? Wore correct glasses but was nearsighted? Wore incorrect glasses? Is he annoyed and impressed that he's being paraphrased? Is there relevant noise? Other things that impede hearing? Seeing? Relevant which language they're both speaking? Is it the same language?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby Haenlomal » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:17 pm

Is the relationship between them boss and underling? If yes, the primary function their company/organization/business does relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby trebor » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:08 am

PMing.
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby WiZ » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:03 am

GalFisk

Do the glasses do anything relevant apart from correcting farsightedness? yes Would the puzzle work if he wore contacts? no Wore no glasses, but was farsighted? no Wore correct glasses but was nearsighted? The logic would work, but the scenario would be unlikely Wore incorrect glasses? potentially, but see previous answer Is he annoyed and impressed that he's being paraphrased? no, at least per se Is there relevant noise? no Other things that impede hearing? no Seeing? no Relevant which language they're both speaking? no Is it the same language? yes

Haenlomal

Is the relationship between them boss and underling? no, however: If yes, the primary function their company/organization/business does relevant? yes to this

Trebor

PMing. Will let you know once it comes through :)
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby peter365 » Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:23 am

Is this happening face to face? Is it a job interview? Skype relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby Earnest » Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:10 am

newspapers relevant? Were the glasses: normal eyeglasses? Transparent? colored? Can the interviewer see the eyes of the interviewed? Do the glasses allow the interviewed to take time? To not answer directly? Eye visits relevant?

the primary function their company/organization/business does relevant? yes to this --> glasses? Something related to: sight? lens? food? entertainment? Music? Cinema? Privacy? Internet? Technology? Sport?

were the two in the same room? Did B fake that his internet connection was bad? But maybe A recognized it was not by the reflection of B's glasses which was "without lag" on the screen?

Bryant is carefully paraphrasing Adam's questions before giving the answer. --> because he did not see something relevantly? He faked not to see something? Would it have been inconvenient had A asked B to stop paraphrasing? Or maybe B would have simply the excuse not to see properly what was written somewhere? Did B repeat the questions to someone else? Wait for something? Wait for someone to suggest an answer? Transmit info to someone? Is B A referee? an employee? a doctor? Relation doctor-patient relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby GalFisk » Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:24 pm

Do the glasses relevantly affect: field of view? Magnification? Looks? Is the other effect they perform: optical? Cosmetic? Electronic? Medical? Misleading? Is he testing the glasses? Does he himself own the glasses he"s wearing? Relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby WiZ » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:38 am

Peter

Is this happening face to face? no Is it a job interview? yes Skype relevant? Yes, or equivalent

Earnest

newspapers relevant? no Were the glasses: normal eyeglasses? yes Transparent? yes (which must come as a relief to Bryant) colored? no Can the interviewer see the eyes of the interviewed? yes Do the glasses allow the interviewed to take time? To not answer directly? no to both Eye visits relevant? no

the primary function their company/organization/business does relevant? yes to this --> glasses? no Something related to: sight? lens? food? entertainment? Music? Cinema? Privacy? Internet? Technology? This relevantly; no to rest Sport?

were the two in the same room? no Did B fake that his internet connection was bad? no But maybe A recognized it was not by the reflection of B's glasses which was "without lag" on the screen? no, but this thinking is ORT

Bryant is carefully paraphrasing Adam's questions before giving the answer. --> because he did not see something relevantly? no He faked not to see something? no, but more ORT Would it have been inconvenient had A asked B to stop paraphrasing? very, for B Or maybe B would have simply the excuse not to see properly what was written somewhere? no Did B repeat the questions to someone else? yope Wait for something? yes Wait for someone to suggest an answer? yesish Transmit info to someone? noish Is B A referee? an employee? a doctor? no to these Relation doctor-patient relevant? no

GalFisk

Do the glasses relevantly affect: field of view? Magnification? Looks? no to all (assuming you're talking about Bryant's perspective) Is the other effect they perform: optical? yes Cosmetic? Electronic? Medical? Misleading? no to rest Is he testing the glasses? no Does he himself own the glasses he"s wearing? yes Relevant? no
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby Earnest » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:54 am

the primary function their company/organization/business does relevant? yes to this --> technology = PC? phones? Screens? Cameras? Electronic device? Something related to eyes? Lens? Spies? Mini screens on eyes? technological glasses? Microphones? lights? Softwares? Social media? Pictures? Internet? Image relevant?

Pictures on social media relevant? Maybe in the picture of his profile B did wear glasses in order to appear more intellectual. He was the forced to put them also during the interview and borrowed them from a friend, but could not see (don't know if it's correct since he simply could have wore lenses). Had he wore lenses would the puzzle still work?

to be sure: is B wearing glasses at the time of the interview? Did A ask B to wear them? Sun reflection on glasses relevant? (e.g. B put himself in a way that the glasses reflect sunlights on the screen and A could not see something relevant?) Taking pictures relevant?

Can we assume that A and B were inside their houses? Relevant?

Did B repeat the questions to someone else? yope --> to a human? Is Siri relevant? Google relevant? Searches on the internet relevant? Are avatars relevant?

Wait for something? yes --> a download to end? a load to end (e.g. he is searching something on Wikipedia) a saving? something happening on the screen? Something happening behind his shoulders? someone to come? Did B relevantly wore headphones during the interview? Did B relevantly wear NO headphones during the interview?

relevant the questions that A asked to B? Related to: what B sees? To the job B is supposed to do? Buttons to be pressed? Softwares to be used? Is B making a sort of audition?

Job interview: through a video? Was A able to see B's movement live? To hear B? Was B able to see A live and hear him? Relevant?

Is B cheating? Is A impressed by the way B is cheating? Maybe B was searching things on Wikipedia/Google in a dark room and A was able to see the reflection on his glasses?
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over

Postby WiZ » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:05 pm

the primary function their company/organization/business does relevant? yes to this --> technology = PC? phones? both, potentially Screens? Cameras? no(t relevantly) to both Electronic device? yes, by necessity Something related to eyes? Lens? Spies? Mini screens on eyes? technological glasses? Microphones? lights? Softwares? yes Social media? Pictures? Internet? Image relevant? not relevantly to rest

Pictures on social media relevant? no Maybe in the picture of his profile B did wear glasses in order to appear more intellectual. He was the forced to put them also during the interview and borrowed them from a friend, but could not see (don't know if it's correct since he simply could have wore lenses). no Had he wore lenses would the puzzle still work? no

to be sure: is B wearing glasses at the time of the interview? yes Did A ask B to wear them? no Sun reflection on glasses relevant? The sun? No (e.g. B put himself in a way that the glasses reflect sunlights on the screen and A could not see something relevant?) no, but explore this line of thinking Taking pictures relevant? no

Can we assume that A and B were inside their houses? Relevant? irrelevant; most likely, A was in the office and B was at home

Did B repeat the questions to someone else? yope --> to a human? no Is Siri relevant? no Google relevant? Searches on the internet relevant? yes to both! Are avatars relevant? no

Wait for something? yes --> a download to end? no a load to end yes (e.g. he is searching something on Wikipedia no, but thinking is very ORT) a saving? no something happening on the screen? yes Something happening behind his shoulders? no someone to come? no Did B relevantly wore headphones during the interview? no Did B relevantly wear NO headphones during the interview? no

relevant the questions that A asked to B? broadly Related to: what B sees? no To the job B is supposed to do? this, most relevantly Buttons to be pressed? Softwares to be used? likely yes to these Is B making a sort of audition? I will say yes to this

Job interview: through a video? yes Was A able to see B's movement live? To hear B? Was B able to see A live and hear him? yes to all Relevant? A being able to see B is relevant

Is B cheating? yes Is A impressed by the way B is cheating? yes Maybe B was searching things on Wikipedia/Google in a dark room and A was able to see the reflection on his glasses? And the last question clinches it!

***** SPOILER *****

Adam is interviewing Bryant for a software development position via Skype. Bryant has lied on his resume about his skills and abilities. When Adam asks Bryant technical questions and to demonstrate his knowledge, Bryant repeats the questions in such a way that he triggers Google Assistant taking him to a website which shows him the answer. Unfortunately for Bryant, Adam can see Bryant's laptop screen reflected in his glasses. He is annoyed to be wasting his time with an impostor, but a little impressed with Bryant's ingenuity.


Congratulations, Earnest, on the solution. Trebor's guess was more or less correct, although in the proposed scenario, the glasses were Google googles .
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over [SOLVED, ON REFLECTION]

Postby Earnest » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:37 am

Oh God I can not imagine how the interview went on o.o
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over [SOLVED, ON REFLECTION]

Postby trebor » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:07 pm

Ah, what I missed was that Adam could see him and that he figured out the ruse. I thought it was just a voice call, and that Adam was only annoyed because Brian was repeating him.
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over [SOLVED, ON REFLECTION]

Postby Hobbsicle » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:13 am

I'm sorry you didn't get the job. But good attempt anyway! ;)
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Re: [WiZ] FAWM is over [SOLVED, ON REFLECTION]

Postby WiZ » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:54 pm

Nice try, but my name is plainly Steve

(Also, I'm pretty sure I've been here since earlier than 2001, but I may be misremembering my misspent youth).
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