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[crisis87] New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:25 pm

A man moved his finger with a concrete purpose, the consequences were immediate. Who is this man? What were the consequences?
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Re: New beginning

Postby Balin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:01 am

Welcome to the forum!
Were the consequences negative? Positive? For him? For one other person? For more than one person?
Is it relevant which finger he moved? On which hand? If so:
Thumb? Index? Middle? Ring? Pinky?
Left hand? Right hand?
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Re: New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:32 am

Balin wrote:Welcome to the forum!
Were the consequences negative?yes Positive?no For him?yes For one other person? Yes more than one person? Yes
Is it relevant which finger he moved? No On which hand? No If so:
Thumb? Index? Middle? Ring? Pinky?
Left hand? Right hand?
the finger not relevant
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Re: New beginning

Postby Earnest » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:04 am

Welcome!!!!

Modern times? ancient times? Middle age?WWI?WWII?Before?After?

WAGs-->So something like in ancient Rome? I mean, the imperator who turned the thumb down to condemn a gladiator to death? Or something like he pulled a trigger? Or again he took a photo?

A man moved his finger with a concrete purpose--> for turning something on (like a light, an alarm, an electric/electronic item for instance)? Did he press a button? Was the man supposed to move his finger? Did someone wait for him to move his finger? Like a crowd? A person? Was someone looking at him while moving the finger?
Was him totally paralyzed except his hands, would the puzzle still work?

consequences were immediate--> immediate= in moments?Seconds?Minutes?Hours?

Who is this man--> is the man famous? Did he have a relevant role? In moving his finger, did he intend to signalize something? Or did he have a relevant item in the nearby which necessitated the finger to be moved?
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Re: New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:10 pm

Earnest wrote:Welcome!!!!

Modern times? Yesancient times?No Middle age?NoWWI? No WWII? NoBefore?NoAfter? Modern times is closest

WAGs-->So something like in ancient Rome?No I mean, the imperator who turned the thumb down to condemn a gladiator to death? NoOr something like he pulled a trigger?In a way yes Or again he took a photo? No

A man moved his finger with a concrete purpose--> for turning something on (like a light, an alarm, an electric/electronic item for instance)? Not exactly, rephrase this question for fear of giving wrong informationDid he press a button? Yes! Was the man supposed to move his finger? No external factors made him move his fingerDid someone wait for him to move his finger?No Like a crowd? NoA person? NoWas someone looking at him while moving the finger? No
Was him totally paralyzed except his hands, would the puzzle still work? Hint he would need an operational brain and hands would be enough

consequences were immediate--> immediate= in moments?YesSeconds?YesMinutes?NoHours?No

Who is this man--> is the man famous? No, or not relevantDid he have a relevant role? NoIn moving his finger, did he intend to signalize something? Not relevant, or rephraseOr did he have a relevant item in the nearby which necessitated the finger to be moved?Yes
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Re: New beginning

Postby Earnest » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:24 pm

Did he press a button? Yes!--> button of an electronically item? Did the button activate something? A weapon? A bomb? Was him a kamikaze? (so that negative consequences would be for him and also for people surrounding him)
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Re: New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:31 pm

Earnest wrote:Did he press a button? Yes!--> button of an electronically item? YesDid the button activate something? YesA weapon? NoA bomb? Not exactly, rephraseWas him a kamikaze? Not per se but you can call him that(it fits in the story but not 100% correct)(so that negative consequences would be for him and also for people surrounding him)
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Re: New beginning

Postby Earnest » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:56 pm

A firework? Something exploding maybe?
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Re: New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:32 pm

Earnest wrote:A firework? noSomething exploding maybe? yes its related to the story
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Re: New beginning

Postby SurfingPikachu » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:43 am

Did the button activate a nuke?
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Re: New beginning

Postby Earnest » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:15 am

would the pressing of the button provoke someone to die? Would he die as well after having pressed the button?

So the button would activate something that is NOT a weapon and is similar to a bomb and something exploding is related to the story, right? Is the something exploding, (which is NOT a weapon or it is NOT meant to be a weapon? E.g. explosive for demolitions?) activated by the button? Would the button activate something at a safe distance? Can the man be considered a criminal? A terrorist? Or was him maybe a simple worker who moved a finger with a not criminal purpose but provoking negative consequences for him and others? I mean...did he act purposely and having in mind to cause negative consequences for him and others? Were the others in the nearby or far from him?

Is the button connected to an electronically device like a computer? Something else? Was the button on a wall? An alarm that would provoke an explosion? An alarm in general (e.g. he wanted to attract the crowd in a place by activating the alarm and then he committed a criminal act like making something explode?)


to be sure...when pressing the button, was him hidden? Was him near a building? Was him flying? would the pressing of the button activate a per se innocuous item which in that specific circumstances in which it is pressed would provoke an explosion to happen? Pressing the button = explosion directly?

You said that it is NOT a weapon---> so....did it transform in a weapon in that circumstances? Or it is not a weapon in the sense that it open something (so it doesn't activate a weapon per se but the something that impede the bomb to fall) which let a bomb fall, following Pickachu's line?

P.s. Surfing at this point I can affirm that we are a team hahaahhaahahah
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Re: New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:19 pm

Did the button activate a nuke? No

Earnest wrote:would the pressing of the button provoke someone to die? Yes Would he die as well after having pressed the button? Yes

So the button would activate something that is NOT a weapon and is similar to a bomb and something exploding is related to the story, right? YepIs the something exploding, (which is NOT a weapon or it is NOT meant to be a weapon? E.g. explosive for demolitions?) activated by the button? Exactly, not meant to be a weapon, and activated by the button. Would the button activate something at a safe distance?Not relevant Can the man be considered a criminal? For what he did yes, but in the story it is not relevant whether he was a terrorist or criminal previously A terrorist? Read previous answerOr was him maybe a simple worker who moved a finger with a not criminal purpose but provoking negative consequences for him and others?Nope he knew what he was doing, he had a concrete purpose I mean...did he act purposely and having in mind to cause negative consequences for him and others? Yes, absolutely Were the others in the nearby or far from him? Not relevant wether he was nearby persons

Is the button connected to an electronically device like a computer? Yes!! Its a computer. Good guess.Something else?no Was the button on a wall? no An alarm that would provoke an explosion? no An alarm in general (e.g. he wanted to attract the crowd in a place by activating the alarm and then he committed a criminal act like making something explode?) nothing to do with alarms or luring people to places


to be sure...when pressing the button, was him hidden?he was near a computer, so that could be considered hidden Was him near a building? not relevant, but lets say he was at his houseWas him flying? nowould the pressing of the button activate a per se innocuous item which in that specific circumstances in which it is pressed would provoke an explosion to happen?you are in the right track, yeish but not 100% correct Pressing the button = explosion directly? in a way yes, but again a yes would give you partial information, you should investigate more on this matter

You said that it is NOT a weapon---> so....did it transform in a weapon in that circumstances?Exactly!! It was not meant to be a weapon, but in the wrong hands and intentions it became a weapon!! Nice one Or it is not a weapon in the sense that it open something (so it doesn't activate a weapon per se but the something that impede the bomb to fall) which let a bomb fall, following Pickachu's line? no
Hint: investigate the profession of this man, it will make you advance leaps in the story.
P.s. Surfing at this point I can affirm that we are a team hahaahhaahahah
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Re: New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:46 pm

it is not explosive for demolitions, forgot to mention that
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Re: New beginning

Postby Earnest » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:58 pm

Ok...so...does the man's job involves explosives? Like for instance in a mine? Were people that would suffer negative consequences co workers of him? Or, being him at home and risking him to die as well is something like a natural disaster going to happen if he had pressed the button? Something like: avalanche? (like in the mine) Earthquake? Eruption? Flood? Is a dyke relevant? Following this line...is the explosion itself that would provoke the people to die?

Is the button connected to an electronically device like a computer? Yes!! --> so is it part of his work to press the button? Did he alone have the possibility to press the button? Is the man a scientist? A geologist? did he work in a circus or as carny? Is it a common work?

Would pressing the button DIRECTLY provoke: an explosion to happen; an order to be given to someone? something to open? something to close? activate a robot? activate something?

Item--> It was not meant to be a weapon, but in the wrong hands and intentions it became a weapon--------> an item that can provoke an explosion and is similar to a bomb...: so, is an explosive that is meant to be used for specific tasks in a job and not as a weapon against others? Or is completely something else? Like a gas? Are oil or gas involved? Or are two substances that must remain separate otherwise an explosion would happen so that pressing the button meant simply to mix those substances and thus provoke the explosion? Is the item originally meant for another purpose or is it meant to provoke "safe" explosions? Is it usually found in mines? Industries? Everywhere in the world? In deserts? Near rivers? Lakes? In cities?

Is the explosion a conventional one? Did it happen on a surface? Under water? In the space? On a mountain? in the sky? In a street?
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Re: New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:47 pm

Earnest wrote:Ok...so...does the man's job involves explosives? NoLike for instance in a mine?No Were people that would suffer negative consequences co workers of him?No Or, being him at home and risking him to die as well is something like a natural disaster going to happen if he had pressed the button? NoSomething like: avalanche? (like in the mine) Earthquake? Eruption? Flood? Is a dyke relevant? No to allFollowing this line...is the explosion itself that would provoke the people to die? Yes

Is the button connected to an electronically device like a computer? Yes!! --> so is it part of his work to press the button?No Did he alone have the possibility to press the button? YesIs the man a scientist? NoA geologist? Nodid he work in a circus or as carny? NoIs it a common work? it is common but it is more of an specialisation Hint it has been seen in movies

Would pressing the button DIRECTLY provoke: an explosion to happen; an order to be given to someone?yes partially, and no something to open?no something to close? noactivate a robot?no activate something? yes its activates something and you know that within seconds there is something related to explosions

Item--> It was not meant to be a weapon, but in the wrong hands and intentions it became a weapon--------> an item that can provoke an explosion and is similar to a bomb...: so, is an explosive that is meant to be used for specific tasks in a job and not as a weapon against others?not in a job but the explosive has an purpose on the story Or is completely something else? related to explosivesLike a gas? no Are oil or gas involved?noOr are two substances that must remain separate otherwise an explosion would happen so that pressing the button meant simply to mix those substances and thus provoke the explosion?no Is the item originally meant for another purpose or is it meant to provoke "safe" explosions? safe is not the right word, there are explosions within a contextIs it usually found in mines? Industries? Everywhere in the world? In deserts? Near rivers? Lakes? In cities? no to all, everywhere in the world is closest. Hint: I never said this happened in our actual world, more like in a plausible parallel world.

Is the explosion a conventional one? it is totally conventional for its purpose Did it happen on a surface? Under water? In the space? On a mountain? in the sky? In a street?the location is not important
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby Earnest » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:43 am

Something like space explosions involved? Is him a spy? Did he work for NASA? Space involved somehow?

Parallel world...is it fictional? Is a movie involved? Marvel? Superheroes?
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:35 pm

Earnest wrote:Something like space explosions involved? Is him a spy? Did he work for NASA? Space involved somehow? no to all

Parallel world...is it fictional? it is fictional, but it is technologically possible, just it never happened in our world.Is a movie involved?no movie involved Marvel? Superheroes?no to rest
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby SurfingPikachu » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:24 pm

@Earnest ;)

Uhh, he pressed a big red shiny self-destruct button?
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:29 pm

SurfingPikachu wrote:@Earnest ;)

Uhh, he pressed a big red shiny self-destruct button?
not quite
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby Earnest » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:12 pm

ok so...first of all...relevant what exploded? the entire world? a city? a building?

Secondly...putting a scale of calamity to the explosion: did the explosion provoke many damages? Like an atomic bomb? Like a grenade? Like a bomb of a military airplane? Of a military ship? Relevant how many people would die in the explosion? The entire people of earth? Only few people? Relevant? Relevant whether people would die within seconds after the explosion? Or maybe hours after? Or months? Weeks? Does the puzzle still work if the explosion was in the sea? in the middle of the desert? In an island? In a city?

would the button provoke a war to happen indirectly? Is the man a president? An engineer? A hacker? Did he need a degree to do that job?

its activates something and you know that within seconds there is something related to explosion--> is there a countdown? If so in the man's computer? Or is the countdown told laugher? Would the button activate a timer? Are robots involved? Is technology of 21st century a part from computer involved? If so, is it very recent technology developed in the last 2-5 years? Is the sector in which the man operate related to movies? To food? To technology? To marketing? To agriculture? To airplanes? To cars? To mechanics? To music? To clothing? To experiments? To military life? To administration? Is him a pink collar? a blue collar? Is him the president of USA?

So situation is: by pressing a button in a computer he can activate something right? So can the computer be a portable one? or is it connected to what it's activated by cables? some engine? Or wireless? For the item to be activated it is NOT necessary that the man found himself inside it right? You told that we can assume that he is inside his home, right? And he will die as well after the explosion at the same time the other people die for the SAME explosion right? Or are there more than one explosions?

there is something related to explosions--> so it is NOT an explosion per se? Is it a sort of explosion? An implosion? Did the "explosion" provoke noise?
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:48 pm

Earnest wrote:ok so...first of all...relevant what exploded?yes its relevant the entire world?no a city? noa building? no

Secondly...putting a scale of calamity to the explosion: did the explosion provoke many damages? yesLike an atomic bomb?nope Like a grenade? noLike a bomb of a military airplane?no Of a military ship?no Relevant how many people would die in the explosion? yes very relevant to the storyThe entire people of earth? you got it, the entire human populationOnly few people? noRelevant? yesRelevant whether people would die within seconds after the explosion? yes its relevant, though if you figure its explosives its normal it is within secondsOr maybe hours after?no Or months?no Weeks?no Does the puzzle still work if the explosion was in the sea?no it would not work in the middle of the desert?technically is possible In an island?no In a city?no

would the button provoke a war to happen indirectly?no Is the man a president?no An engineer?no A hacker?yes you got it, getting closer Did he need a degree to do that job? he could be self taught but normally you need a degree

its activates something and you know that within seconds there is something related to explosion--> is there a countdown?if there is any it is not relevant If so in the man's computer?no Or is the countdown told laugher? Would the button activate a timer? not relevant, lets say within secondsAre robots involved? noIs technology of 21st century a part from computer involved?we produce everything we need today to make that story possible If so, is it very recent technology developed in the last 2-5 years? dont explore that, it is not relevant, see my previous noteIs the sector in which the man operate related to movies?yes because you already know from above hes a hacker To food?no To technology?no To marketing? To agriculture? To airplanes? To cars? To mechanics? To music? To clothing? To experiments? To military life? To administration? Is him a pink collar? a blue collar? Is him the president of USA? no to rest

So situation is: by pressing a button in a computer he can activate something right? yepSo can the computer be a portable one?yes it could be a computer or is it connected to what it's activated by cables?not relevant some engine?no Or wireless? could be wireless or cable it is not relevant for the storyFor the item to be activated it is NOT necessary that the man found himself inside it right?no You told that we can assume that he is inside his home, right?yes And he will die as well after the explosion at the same time the other people die for the SAME explosion right? yesOr are there more than one explosions?you got it, more than one explosions

there is something related to explosions--> so it is NOT an explosion per se?its an explosion yes, or many i cannot give you the amount Is it a sort of explosion? explosion is closest to the storyAn implosion? noDid the "explosion" provoke noise?not relevant
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby Earnest » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:02 am

hacker...so he hacked other computers right? maybe computers which are able to control the "non-weapon" object? Is it something like an hacker able to control the phones of people and make them explode? Or something like that? I mean, something technological that everyone has and the hacker is able to control and make explode?

Are the many explosions in different parts of earth? Located just in a place? Is there a most important explosion provoking the others successively?

Would the explosion happen underground?
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:40 pm

Earnest wrote:hacker...so he hacked other computers right? he hacked something yesmaybe computers which are able to control the "non-weapon" object? exactlyIs it something like an hacker able to control the phones of people and make them explode? no phones involvedOr something like that? yes kind ofI mean, something technological that everyone has and the hacker is able to control and make explode? yes, but remember its a fictional story so everyone has it but it doesn't mean everyone has it in our actual world

Are the many explosions in different parts of earth? yesLocated just in a place?no Is there a most important explosion provoking the others successively?no

Would the explosion happen underground?the explosion itself could work underground yes, but it would be a little bit more complicated I guess depending on how deep underground you are
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby Earnest » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:49 pm

Ok so is it something installed inside every human? Maybe when someone born?
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:50 pm

Earnest wrote:Ok so is it something installed inside every human? Maybe when someone born?
Exactly
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:53 pm

The puzzle is solved 95%, you just need to phrase the whole story.
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby Earnest » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:03 pm

even him? Like something connected to vital organs? Or something to control human being and to make them explode? Like androids? so just like an hacker hacked the central system of every human being and pressed the button of his computer to make every human being explode?
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby crisis87 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:14 pm

Earnest wrote:even him? Like something connected to vital organs?yes Or something to control human being and to make them explode? No Like androids? No so just like an hacker hacked the central system of every human being and pressed the button of his computer to make every human being explode? Yes
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Re: [crisis87] New beginning

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:34 pm

So what are we looking for here? We're in a speculative fiction present day in which humans have technology installed inside of them, yes? Does it matter what kind, or for what purpose? Something to aid their physical functions? Something to identify or track them? And one way or another, our misanthropic hacker hacks into some kind of centralized control center for these chips and causes them to detonate? Or causes them to cease their functioning?
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