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[Balin] How do you spell that?

Postby Balin » Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:55 am

Two men in uniform are standing in a field when one suggests the other use his equipment. The second man becomes very angry. Why?
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Postby klondike mary » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:38 am

Is the equipment on the person? An article of clothing? or other? Is it separate? Is it a weapon? Is it (designed to be) portable? Does it have wheels? Is it bigger than a breadbox, however big that is?
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Postby Earnest » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:51 am

Uniform = miltary? Army? Soldiers? Part of a relevant group? War time relevant? Did he need to change clothing in order to put on the equipment? Did he expect such a request?

Did B (second man) become very angry to the first man? Because of the request? Because the equipment was broken? For the situation in which he was? Was there a public? Can we assume that they were alone in the middle of the field? Were both standing? One was in a foxhole/behind a wall and the other was not? One was in the middle of a mine field and the other was safe?
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that?

Postby Balin » Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:00 am

Is the equipment on the person? Yes An article of clothing? No or other? Yes Is it separate? Separate from what? Is it a weapon? No Is it (designed to be) portable? Yes Does it have wheels? No Is it bigger than a breadbox, however big that is? No

Uniform = miltary? Army? Soldiers? None of these Part of a relevant group? It will help set the context War time relevant? No Did he need to change clothing in order to put on the equipment? No Did he expect such a request? No

Did B (second man) become very angry to the first man? Yes Because of the request? Yes Because the equipment was broken? No For the situation in which he was? Noish Was there a public? Yes Can we assume that they were alone in the middle of the field? No Were both standing? Yes One was in a foxhole/behind a wall and the other was not? No One was in the middle of a mine field and the other was safe? No
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Postby Earnest » Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:43 am

Manifestation relevant? Was the second man embarassed? Is any kind of orchestra/marching band relevant? Music relevant? Weapons? Climbing? Sport? Is the uniform repevantly part of the equipment? Did A give an order to B? Was A using the equipment? Relevant why B did not use the equipment before? Any relevant handicap/physical condition of B? Standing guards (e.g. British) relevant? Fake guards/guardians of a shop? Performances relevant? Cooordination relevant?

In using the equipment would he have failed in his attempt of doing something? (Equivalent of a "give up")? Were the two part of a team? Did other team members have the same uniform? To be sure: "his" equipment means: his = of A? Of B? Skydiving relevant? Did they already perform? Were in a middle of a performance? Prepare to perform? Others?
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Postby klondike mary » Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:36 pm

Police? Firefighters? EMTs? Are they participants or officials in a sport?
Gender relevant? Would the situation be different if A and B were female? A male and B female? vice versa?
They are all human, right? Including the 'public'? Just checking.
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that?

Postby trebor » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:26 am

Is the first man a football player who suggests to the ref that he throw his flag?
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that?

Postby Balin » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:27 pm

Manifestation relevant? No Was the second man embarassed? Yes Is any kind of orchestra/marching band relevant? No Music relevant? Weapons? Climbing? Not these Sport? Yes Is the uniform repevantly part of the equipment? No Did A give an order to B? No Was A using the equipment? Yes Relevant why B did not use the equipment before? Yes Any relevant handicap/physical condition of B? No Standing guards (e.g. British) relevant? No Fake guards/guardians of a shop? Performances relevant? Cooordination relevant? Not these

In using the equipment would he have failed in his attempt of doing something? No (Equivalent of a "give up")? No Were the two part of a team? No Did other team members have the same uniform? Yes To be sure: "his" equipment means: his = of A? This Of B? Skydiving relevant? No - I'm not GalFisk Did they already perform? Were in a middle of a performance? For svv of "performance" Prepare to perform? Others?

Police? Firefighters? EMTs? Not these Are they participants or officials in a sport? Yes
Gender relevant? No Would the situation be different if A and B were female? A male and B female? vice versa? Wouldn't change anything
They are all human, right? Including the 'public'? Just checking. Yes

Is the first man a football player who suggests to the ref that he throw his flag? No
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Postby Earnest » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:18 am

Were the two rivals? Sport relevant? Ice skating? Is the uniform part of the sport? Martial arts? Tennis ? Races? Horse races? Running? Car racing? Golf? Fencing? Bowling? Chess? Ski? Bob? Others? (To be sure: live sports and not sports played at the Wii for instance, so that the equipment was the joystick right?)

Did they represent their nations? Were they celebrating? Podium relevant?
Equipment = electronical device? Technology relevant? Water resistance relevant? E.g. a clock? A timer?
Can the sport be played without the relevant equipment? Is it usually plaued without it? With it?

To be sure: "his" equipment means: his = of A? This --> did A want to help B? Relevant why B did not use his equipment: he did not want to? He could not? His equipment was inadequate? He could not reach his equipment? He could not find it? He did not bring it? It broke up? A broke it up unvoluntarily? Someone took it? He voluntarily played without it?
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Postby Balin » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:49 pm

Were the two rivals? No Sport relevant? Yes Ice skating? No Is the uniform part of the sport? Yes Martial arts? Tennis ? Races? Horse races? Running? Car racing? Golf? Fencing? Bowling? Chess? Ski? Bob? None of these Others? Yes, by default (To be sure: live sports and not sports played at the Wii for instance, so that the equipment was the joystick right?) Live sports, Yes

Did they represent their nations? Were they celebrating? Podium relevant? No to these
Equipment = electronical device? No Technology relevant? No Water resistance relevant? No E.g. a clock? A timer? Not these
Can the sport be played without the relevant equipment? Yes Is it usually plaued without it? This With it?

To be sure: "his" equipment means: his = of A? Yes This --> did A want to help B? No Relevant why B did not use his equipment: he did not want to? Yes He could not? Also Yes His equipment was inadequate? No, but... He could not reach his equipment? He could not find it? He did not bring it? It broke up? A broke it up unvoluntarily? Someone took it? He voluntarily played without it? No to these, FA to the last one
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Postby Earnest » Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:50 am

Was B playing? Was B involved in the game? Were B initial intentions to take part of the game? Can we assume modern times? If not are the rules of the sport changed now with respect to the past? Is the sport changed? Is the sport an olympic sport? Gymnastic? Does the equipment help the players of the sport? Help the coach? The referee? Others? If so, to see peter? To judge better? To hear better? To speak Lauder? To stop the game? Dance relevant? Were A and B already in the middle of the field or A reached B (or viceversa)? Is the filed signed by rows (as in football for instance)? Do the rows divide the field in relevant parts? Were the two in a specific part of the field? Did something relevant happen? E.g. a goal had been scored? A violation had been made?

Was one of the two a coach? A fan? Did the two have the same roles? Were A and B prisoners? Were A and B referees? Players? Was B a reserve of A? Was B able to use the equipment? Can the equipment be classified as being heavy? Handy? Specific for that sport (in contrast with generic equipments such as glasses/shoes/umbrella/lighter for instance)? Cards? Whistle? Flag? Telescope? (Inspired by the title) A dictionary? A vocabulary?

WAG --> ok maybe too wild but I'll try. So my guess is that A is part of the public and has the same uniform as the coach of the favorite team. The coach did something wrong and the fan screamed out loud to him if he needed his equipment.

Is the game: usually played in inside? Outside? With cards? Is precision involved? Is the equipment allowed in particular situations? When something happens? Is there a referee? Does he have to allow for the usage of the equipment? Is the game: billiards? Cricket? American football? Rugby? Volleyball? Hockey? Football? Baseball?

Racism relevant? Culture? Was there a difference between the two? One was taller than the other for instance? Is the equipment part of the game? Part of the tools used by the referees of the game? Needed for protection/safety? To help players? To help referees? To distinguish referees from players? To guide players? To signal something to players/referees? Did A suggest B to use the equipment for its aim? For another purpose? Is the equipment bigger than a football ball? An helmet? Protective equipment? Training equipment? Raquets?
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Postby Balin » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:04 pm

Was B playing? No Was B involved in the game? Yes Were B initial intentions to take part of the game? Yes, svv of "take part" Can we assume modern times? This is BOATS from the 1940s, but it would work in modern times as well If not are the rules of the sport changed now with respect to the past? Not relevantly Is the sport changed? Not relevantly Is the sport an olympic sport? Yes Gymnastic? No
Does the equipment help the players of the sport? Help the coach? The referee? Others? If so, to see peter? To judge better? To hear better? To speak Lauder? To stop the game? Dance relevant? No to all these
Were A and B already in the middle of the field or A reached B (or viceversa)? They were at the same location in the field Is the filed signed by rows (as in football for instance)? No Do the rows divide the field in relevant parts? There aren't rows Were the two in a specific part of the field? Yes Did something relevant happen? Yes E.g. a goal had been scored? A violation had been made? But not these

Was one of the two a coach? A fan? Neither Did the two have the same roles? No Were A and B prisoners? No Were A and B referees? B is Players? A is Was B a reserve of A? No Was B able to use the equipment? No Can the equipment be classified as being heavy? No Handy? DOYD Specific for that sport No (in contrast with generic equipments such as glasses/shoes/umbrella/lighter for instance)? It's more along these lines Cards? Whistle? Flag? Telescope? (Inspired by the title) A dictionary? A vocabulary? Not these

WAG --> ok maybe too wild but I'll try. So my guess is that A is part of the public and has the same uniform as the coach of the favorite team. The coach did something wrong and the fan screamed out loud to him if he needed his equipment. Good guess, but not this

Is the game: usually played in inside? Outside? This With cards? No Is precision involved? See below Is the equipment allowed in particular situations? Yes, but see above - it's not sport-specific equipment When something happens? No Is there a referee? Yes, B Does he have to allow for the usage of the equipment? No Is the game: billiards? Cricket? American football? Rugby? Volleyball? Hockey? Football? Baseball? This

Racism relevant? No Culture? No[b/] Was there a difference between the two? [b]Yes One was taller than the other for instance? But not this
Is the equipment part of the game? Part of the tools used by the referees of the game? Needed for protection/safety? To help players? To help referees? To distinguish referees from players? To guide players? To signal something to players/referees? No to all
Did A suggest B to use the equipment for its aim? Yope For another purpose? No Is the equipment bigger than a football ball? An helmet? Protective equipment? Training equipment? Raquets? No to all
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that?

Postby Earnest » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:24 am

Did A want to criticise B? Are the rules of the game involved? Did A break the rules? Did someone break the rules? Did someone break the rules but B did not signal it?

Equipment = contact lenses? Braces? Equipment that helps people with a certain problem? Did B have the piece if equipment while playing? Is it a book? Gel? Toupee? Patches? Earrings? Did B (the ref) break the rules? Did A have the equipment in his pockets? Something to eat? A magnet? Scandals relevant? Did B have problems during the game? Did someone throw him something? Scream to him something? Did he stumble? Did he wear a toupee? Something that is used to clean? (E.g. the gesture of A toward B made it evident that B was dirty because the cameras focused on them?)

Was it evident to the public what A proposed to B? Were the two relevantly recorded by cameras? Would the statement have worked also without public? Weather relevant? Rainy? Snowy? Windy?
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Postby Balin » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:18 pm

Did A want to criticise B? Yes Are the rules of the game involved? No Did A break the rules? No Did someone break the rules? No Did someone break the rules but B did not signal it? No

Equipment = contact lenses? No, but OTRT Braces? No Equipment that helps people with a certain problem? Yes Did B have the piece if equipment while playing? No Is it a book? Gel? Toupee? Patches? Earrings? No to these Did B (the ref) break the rules? No Did A have the equipment in his pockets? No Something to eat? A magnet? Scandals relevant? No to these Did B have problems during the game? No Did someone throw him something? Scream to him something? No to these Did he stumble? No Did he wear a toupee? No Something that is used to clean? No (E.g. the gesture of A toward B made it evident that B was dirty because the cameras focused on them?) No

Was it evident to the public (I should clarify: the "public" was likely no more than a small crowd) what A proposed to B? Yes Were the two relevantly recorded by cameras? No Would the statement have worked also without public? Yes
Weather relevant? Rainy? Snowy? Windy? No to these
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that?

Postby Earnest » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:28 pm

Head or tail relevant? Coins relevant?
Equipment for eyes? Make up?!
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that?

Postby Balin » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:57 pm

Head or tail relevant? No Coins relevant? No
Equipment for eyes? Yes (-ish) Make up?! No
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Postby Earnest » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:09 am

Equipment for eyes? Yes (-ish) --> for zooming? See better? Keep the eyes wide open? Is it put above the eyes? Inside? Eyewash? A pharmaceutical/drug of some sort? Glass eyeball (e.g. eyeball to eyeball with referee)? monocle? Any sort of lens? A mask (if so: a clown mask? A protective mask? A funny mask?) ?

Is a pun involved? Indirect accusations (e.g. alcoholic beverages that blur the view/ something blurring the view...so maybe breathalyzer as equipment)? Color blindness relevant?
Can we assume that A was a professions (i.e. his job is not relevant)?
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Postby Balin » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:24 pm

Equipment for eyes? Yes (-ish) --> (...)Glass eyeball This, so I'll skip the rest. Next set of questions should get it (e.g. eyeball to eyeball with referee)? But "eye to eye" is not relevant

Is a pun involved? No Indirect accusations No (e.g. alcoholic beverages that blur the view/ something blurring the view...so maybe breathalyzer as equipment)? No Color blindness relevant? No
Can we assume that A was a professions (i.e. his job is not relevant)? Correct, all that's relevant is he was playing baseball at the time
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Postby Earnest » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:49 pm

Had B a missing eye? Missing eyeball? I am anaware of baseball rules so I will make questions that do not pertain them. Something like keeping an eye closed and the other wide open relevant? The saying " turn a blind eye" relevant? Paralympiads relevant?

Did A mean that B should put a glass eyeball inside a missing eye? That he needed a third eye? That having glass eyeballs instead of his eyeballs would have been the same (meaning that it was as if he was blind?)? Blindness (physical or metaphorical) relevant?
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that?

Postby Balin » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:01 pm

Did A mean that B... having glass eyeballs instead of his eyeballs would have been the same (meaning that it was as if he was blind?)? Got it.

****SPOILER****

When actor Peter Falk was on his high school's baseball team, he was called out by the umpire on a play where he was sure he was safe. Falk removed his glass eye, handed it to the umpire, and said, "Try this."

Well done Earnest for the tenacious work to the solve!

And the title comes from an anecdote about MLB umpire George Moriarty. After a disputed call, the player asked Moriarty how he spelt his name. When Moriarty did so, the player said, "Just as I thought, only one I."
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that? (*OUT*)

Postby Earnest » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:53 am

Noooooo way. The Moriarty story is fantastic. Well conceived puzzle Balin!
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Re: [Balin] How do you spell that? (*OUT*)

Postby trebor » Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:29 am

Thats alright, Mr. Umpire, I don’t want to take up any more of your time. Oh, just one more thing...
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