Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February? [DONE IN A PINCH]

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Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February? [DONE IN A PINCH]

Postby WiZ » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:27 pm

A boy receives a series of pinch point injuries over the course of a school day. He then goes to his doctor, who gives him a life-changing diagnosis that has nothing to do with his injuries. What had happened?

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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Sundowner » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:10 pm

Life-changing to the better? to the worse? requiring the boy to change his life?
Were the injuries all in the same part of the body? Did he receive them all at once? intentionally? (like: acupuncture?)
Was the boy actually at school during this day?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:52 am

Does he go to the doctor because of the injuries? Does the doctor happen upon the diagnosis when examining or treating the injuries? Relevant how he got the injuries? Age of the boy relevant?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Mimino » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:46 am

Relevant that it is a boy? a schoolboy?
Could the same happen to a girl? to an adult person?
Did the boy get the injuries while at school? during school activities?
Were the injuries caused by needles? nails? wire?
Animals involved? Were the injuries insect bites or stings?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:01 am

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Life-changing to the better? yes to the worse? no requiring the boy to change his life? some adjustment would be involved, but probably no sweeping lifestyle changes
Were the injuries all in the same part of the body? for the most part, yes Did he receive them all at once? no intentionally? (like: acupuncture?) he did not solicit the injuries, if I understand your question properly
Was the boy actually at school during this day? yes

GalFisk

Does he go to the doctor because of the injuries? no Does the doctor happen upon the diagnosis when examining or treating the injuries? no Relevant how he got the injuries? yes Age of the boy relevant? broadly

Mimino

Relevant that it is a boy? I think this scenario is more likely to happen to a boy, for two main reasons a schoolboy? yes
Could the same happen to a girl? yes to an adult person? this is quite unlikely for multiple reasons
Did the boy get the injuries while at school? yes during school activities? irrelevant but likely
Were the injuries caused by needles? no nails? yesish wire? no
Animals involved? no Were the injuries insect bites or stings? no
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby trebor » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:19 am

Does “pinch point” mean that he gets some part of him caught between two things? Two parts of one thing? Does it mean, like, small little pinches?

Is a sport involved? Does the boy attend primary school? Secondary? Are the injuries attained inside the school? Outside? Would it be fair to say someone else gives him these injuries? Does he subject himself to something knowing these injuries might result? Is his social standing at school relevant? His academic standing? Is he trying to impress anyone when he sustains the injuries?

Are beds of nails relevant?

Had he not received these injuries, would he still have gone to the doctor? Did he, in the course of events leading to these injuries, sustain another injury for which he went to the doctor? Did any injuries he sustained that day make noticeable something that would other have flown under the doctor’s radar?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:07 am

Does “pinch point” mean that he gets some part of him caught between two things? Two parts of one thing? this Does it mean, like, small little pinches? yes

Is a sport involved? no Does the boy attend primary school? most likely Secondary? not impossible due to the propensity of secondary schoolboys to behave like primary schoolboys Are the injuries attained inside the school? yes Outside? possibly this, too Would it be fair to say someone else gives him these injuries? very fair Does he subject himself to something knowing these injuries might result? no, not willingly Is his social standing at school relevant? no His academic standing? no Is he trying to impress anyone when he sustains the injuries? noish to yope

Are beds of nails relevant? no

Had he not received these injuries, would he still have gone to the doctor? not at that time Did he, in the course of events leading to these injuries, sustain another injury for which he went to the doctor? no Did any injuries he sustained that day make noticeable something that would other have flown under the doctor’s radar? no
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Doriana » Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:37 pm

Is the person who gives him the injuries another student? a teacher? a staff member?
Are the injuries on the boy's hand? arm? foot? leg? torso? head?

Is a bet or dare relevant?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:41 pm

Is the person who gives him the injuries another student? yes a teacher? a staff member? no to both
Are the injuries on the boy's hand? arm? this, mostly foot? leg? torso? head?

Is a bet or dare relevant? noish
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby markobr » Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:59 pm

Does the other student injure him intentionally? Out of recklessness? Completely accidentially? Would a teacher usually think the student should refrain from injuring him? Would he usually act to prevent more injuries of this kind?

His doctor: a physichian? A general practitioner? Or rather some specialist? Does he visit his doctor regularily?

Is he diagnosed of an illness? Disability? Lack of an illness? Lack of a disability? Do the injuries help the doctor to give his diagnosis? Is the diagnosis, in fact, correct?

Will the diagnosis result in a therapy? Further examinations? Cancelling of planned therapy? Examination?

Is the school he attends an ordinary primary (or maybe secondary) school? Will he continue to attend the same school after the diagnosis?

Are the injuries of a kind that requires some treatment? If so: Professional treatment?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:39 pm

Does the other student injure him intentionally? yes Out of recklessness? Completely accidentially? no to both Would a teacher usually think the student should refrain from injuring him? yes Would he usually act to prevent more injuries of this kind? no

His doctor: a physichian? A general practitioner? Yes, assume a local GP Or rather some specialist? Does he visit his doctor regularily? irrel

Is he diagnosed of an illness? Disability? this Lack of an illness? Lack of a disability? Do the injuries help the doctor to give his diagnosis? yes Is the diagnosis, in fact, correct? yes

Will the diagnosis result in a therapy? Further examinations? likely yes to both Cancelling of planned therapy? Examination? no to both

Is the school he attends an ordinary primary (or maybe secondary) school? yes Will he continue to attend the same school after the diagnosis? yes

Are the injuries of a kind that requires some treatment? no If so: Professional treatment? n/a
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby GalFisk » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:01 am

Relevant why he's being pinched? Is it just to torment him? Because the pinching causes an unusual reaction? Such as discoloration? Swelling? Lots of pain? Little to no pain?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:17 pm

Relevant why he's being pinched? yes Is it just to torment him? noish Because the pinching causes an unusual reaction? no Such as discoloration? Swelling? Lots of pain? Little to no pain? n/a to all
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby biograd » Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:20 am

Was he being pinched in retaliation for doing something mean to someone else?

I know you said that the pinching was not done because of the reasons that GalFisk mentioned, but was the diagnosis made on the basis of any of those (like the skin turned an unusual color after being pinched, or he wasn't able to feel the pinches)?

Does the disability affect his skin's ability to heal? its flexibility? his sense of touch or pain? his blood circulation? his movement?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Sundowner » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:54 pm

Was the visit to the doctor scheduled before the boy received the injuries?
Did the boy (or his parents) already assumed to have a particular disease? and the visit to the doctor was to confirm the diagnosis?
Was the doctor's diagnosis that the boy does not have a particular disease? a different disease than expected? a less serious one?
Is the boys disability mental?
Do the injuries prove some point? like the boy does not feel pain in the arm?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:20 pm

Biograd

Was he being pinched in retaliation for doing something mean to someone else? no

I know you said that the pinching was not done because of the reasons that GalFisk mentioned, but was the diagnosis made on the basis of any of those (like the skin turned an unusual color after being pinched, or he wasn't able to feel the pinches)? no

Does the disability affect his skin's ability to heal? its flexibility? his sense of touch or pain? his blood circulation? his movement? no to all

Sundowner

Was the visit to the doctor scheduled before the boy received the injuries? no
Did the boy (or his parents) already assumed to have a particular disease? no and the visit to the doctor was to confirm the diagnosis? n/a
Was the doctor's diagnosis that the boy does not have a particular disease? a different disease than expected? a less serious one? no to all, and FA to 'disease'
Is the boys disability mental? no
Do the injuries prove some point? yes like the boy does not feel pain in the arm? but no
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Sundowner » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:46 pm

Was the visit to the doctor scheduled upon the boy receiving the injuries? completely unrelated to it, just coincidence? A routine checkup?
Did the boy already know about his disability when he went to the doctor? when he received the injuries? before? did he suspect something is not right with him? did his parents?
Did he already receive treatment for his disability? or would he not need any special treatment or medication?
Would the same also work if the boy had received the injuries in some other part of the body?
Did the injuries result from someone pinching the boy with his fingernails? Was this done in order to prevent the boy from falling asleep during class?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:34 pm

Was the visit to the doctor scheduled upon the boy receiving the injuries? yes completely unrelated to it, just coincidence? A routine checkup? no to both
Did the boy already know about his disability when he went to the doctor? no when he received the injuries? no before? no did he suspect something is not right with him? yes did his parents? yes, but only after the child explained the situation to them
Did he already receive treatment for his disability? no or would he not need any special treatment noish or medication? no
Would the same also work if the boy had received the injuries in some other part of the body? yes
Did the injuries result from someone pinching the boy with his fingernails? yes (or fingertips)Was this done in order to prevent the boy from falling asleep during class? no
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Sundowner » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:18 pm

DId the injuries leave visible traces on the skin? if so: blood? changed color of the skin? skin rippled off?
Were the injuries painful? more painful than pinching usually is?
Was the boy's disability inherited? acquired?
Did the disability concern: mobility? cognition? senses? metabolism? fertility? behavior?
Would the boy need help to live with this disability?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:16 pm

DId the injuries leave visible traces on the skin? yes, but irrel if so: blood? changed color of the skin? This is most likely; still irrel skin rippled off?
Were the injuries painful? yes, but irrel more painful than pinching usually is? assume no
Was the boy's disability inherited? yes acquired? no
Did the disability concern: mobility? no cognition? somewhat senses? yes, primarily metabolism? fertility? behavior? no to rest
Would the boy need help to live with this disability? He could live a more or less normal life without help, but there are resources available to make life easier for people like him
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby biograd » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:30 am

Is any sense in particular affected primarily (or only)? If so, sight? hearing? touch? taste? smell? proprioception? Or, is it not the senses themselves that are most affected, but rather perception/comprehension (e.g. something like dyslexia)?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:52 pm

Is any sense in particular affected primarily (or only)? yes to both If so, sight? yes hearing? touch? taste? smell? proprioception? no to rest Or, is it not the senses themselves that are most affected, but rather perception/comprehension (e.g. something like dyslexia)? no
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Doriana » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:17 pm

Is the boy colorblind?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:22 pm

Is the boy colorblind? yes!
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Postby biograd » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:42 am

Did the colorblindness affect the boy's ability to see the marks caused by the injuries? contribute to why he was pinched in the first place? affect his ability to read something present at the doctor's office?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:02 pm

Did the colorblindness affect the boy's ability to see the marks caused by the injuries? contribute to why he was pinched in the first place? this affect his ability to read something present at the doctor's office?
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Postby Doriana » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:33 pm

Was the pinching part of a game? If so, do the game rules relevantly involve color (perception)?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:39 am

Was the pinching part of a game? yes with a big ish If so, do the game rules relevantly involve color (perception)? yes
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Sundowner » Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:58 am

Was the game a card game?
Did the game involve that the loser gets pinched? and the boy lost very often because of his inability to distinguish between colors?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:57 pm

Was the game a card game? no, and this sort of interpretation of 'game' is OTWT
Did the game involve that the loser gets pinched? yes - being pinched was a forfeit in this game-ISH and the boy lost very often because of his inability to distinguish between colors? yes
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Postby biograd » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:14 am

So I take it from your last answer that this wasn't the sort of game that you would buy in a game store, with specially made props and a rule booklet? Was it some sort of game that the kids made up themselves? a kind of practical joke or something else "done in the name of fun" but not formally a game?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Doriana » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:27 am

Does the game involve any kind of equipment? Is it a playground game? Tag? There’s a variant of tag (that I don’t know the English name of) where people wearing a certain colour are immune to being tagged, is it something like that?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:03 am

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So I take it from your last answer that this wasn't the sort of game that you would buy in a game store, with specially made props and a rule booklet? Correct - far from this Was it some sort of game that the kids made up themselves? no a kind of practical joke yesish or something else "done in the name of fun" but not formally a game? yes

Doriana

Does the game involve any kind of equipment? noish Is it a playground game? Tag? it's less formalised than any of that, although it would likely be 'played' in the playground There’s a variant of tag (that I don’t know the English name of) where people wearing a certain colour are immune to being tagged, is it something like that? no
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Postby Sundowner » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:33 am

Does the game involve to identify an object by its color? something along "I spy with my little eye .."?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:34 am

Does the game involve to identify an object by its color? something along "I spy with my little eye .."? not in this vein - although identifying items by their colour plays a relevant part in the 'game'
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby Doriana » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:55 am

Does the "game" involve running? hiding? jumping? doing something to innocent bystanders who aren't in on whatever is happening?

Are the items that are identified by colour pieces of clothing? playground equipment? food items? plants?
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Re: Did [WiZ] Just Post a Puzzle in February?

Postby WiZ » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:13 pm

Does the "game" involve running? hiding? jumping? no to these doing something to innocent bystanders who aren't in on whatever is happening? basically, yes (in addition to people who are 'in' on the 'game')

Are the items that are identified by colour pieces of clothing? yes playground equipment? food items? plants? no to rest

I'm starting to think the rest of it is coming down to cultural knowledge - and, given that we've established that the rules allow you to pinch innocent bystanders depending on the colour of their clothing, all that remains is the justification, which I'm happy just to tell you

***** SPOILER *****

It was Saint Patrick's Day. In a number of countries, there is a schoolyard tradition of being allowed to pinch anyone who isn't wearing green on this day. The boy was wearing what he thought was a green shirt, but was in fact brown. After spending the day being pinched despite, so he thought, playing by the rules, he went to the doctor who confirmed he was colourblind.


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